Brainstorming: Project apocalysse

[Ladislao]

Hello fellow brothers... in the next months, i will try to transform my sw army in force able to fight in the gretest battles...

 

Nad actualy, i would like to do a drop/pod aipping army, iwth maybe a thunderhawk as super heavy! Do strike from the sky, destroying enemy artillery and taking an objective is the work for a space wolf!

 

Now the brainstorming, i need some idea

 

First of all, the thunderhawk! inside them i will put a classic deathstar... 10 man strong termy squad, logan, ragnar and naijal! What to put in the left over space?

 

Some anti tank unit? ( a combi melta one, or some more termy with the chainfist?) a iron priest? A lone wolf?

 

Then a risky ( bg wise ) choiche.. a storm raven... it is too usefull to leave it outside this list... with a dreddy ( maybe bjorn itself) and an anti light infantry squad

( a full toled up unit of gray hunters, with 2 flamer and maybe a wolf priest?) or maybe a simple unit of fo wolf guars with some special weapon throwed in? Just to take the melta bombs and add flessibility

 

finaly, 4 drop pods... in one will find place a unit of long fangs, in another the suicidal anti tank unit of wolf guards ( aka 10 wolf guars with comby melta, for super heavy hunting), The others 2.. what to fill them with? Simply plasma or melta gray hunters?

 

And maybe a pair of land speeder tossed in

 

 

The strategy is simple... take accurate planning asset, bring the th on turn 1, use the d cannon to clear a bit the area and to destry the asset disturbing the coming from reserve.. then drop all at once, destroying the most dangerous unit nearby and holding an objective to the end!

 

What do you think? any suggestion? Any interesting formation around?

[Bulweih]

Hail brother,

having had my fair share of apoc games, I'll add my 2 cents to the picture...

First off, while the Thunderhawk is a great model indeed, Its game performance lacks to say the least. It's semi good while being used as a flyer, but the turn you land it to disembark, it will be gone before you can lift off again if you are not exceptionally lucky.

In the end I sadly have to say that's way too much money to spend on the model that are better invested elsewhere.

 

I strongly recommend the Caestus Assault Ram if the TDA Transport rule made it in the IA10 book. While it lost the melta special rule I think it is the far better choice for Apoc.

 

Three Stormchickens as pure flyers would be nice, and relatively cheap. IA Flyers are good, just state they are from House Belisarius or else, generally them over a thunderhawk, sad but true ;) .

 

I use the formations "march of the ancients" and the one with the 3 vindicators, the first granting my entire army outflank and the second priceless for rolling alongside the footslogging TDA force.

 

Grey Hunters I use 3 full 10 men packs of Flamers and Plasma, plus 4 packs of Meltas ;) , so anyhow you like it.

Mind that in Apoc it can pay to fully kit your WG out. Stormshields anyone :D ?

Mind that our troops really shine, with enough you can conquer anything, so I often feel we don't really need to add too much shiny things from FW Apoc stuff, if we have enough regular Wolves.

That's not saying a Warhounf Titan, Caestus A.R., LR Achilles/Helios wouldn't fit nicely in our army concept.

Walkers in the droppods and pay the price for the FW Lucius Pattern so that they can assault the turn they arrive, here I also use my FW Ven. Priest Dread-priceless B) .

Land Speeders I use for patrolling between my Long Fangs to counter any deepstriking or infiltrating enemy units or suicide attacks.

 

Hope that helps a least a little bit.

[Spacefrisian]

First of all, the thunderhawk! inside them i will put a classic deathstar... 10 man strong termy squad, logan, ragnar and naijal! What to put in the left over space?

 

Ulrik and a regular Wolfpriest, Arjac would fit in nicely as well.

[Sturm Moonwolf]

I agree with Bulweih on the Thunderhawk. While it's a great centerpiece and I'd love to have one, once that thing goes to hover mode it will most likely get popped. And the price tag on it can get you much more effective and useful FW products like the Lucius Drop Pod, Caestus Rams and even Tempest Landspeeders for AA capability.

 

Lots of Terminators I highly recommend. Lots of Greys. Lots of transports. All the big nasty titans/superheavies can be overcome with a drop pods full of combimelta wolf guard. I tend to play troop heavy, and our Greys are the best in the game. You'll need lots of troops to take and hold objectives. And transports are vital for your troops, not just for the mobility but the cover they provide especially if your group is limiting D weapons.

 

Formations I regularly use are:

Battle Company (fully mech)

Iron Exemplar (land raiders ignoring first penetrating hit? yes please. Screams for a deathstar group)

Ancients Assault Force

Linebreaker Squadrons

Titanhammer Squads (in pods)

Skyhammer and Strike Eagle Drop Pod Assaults (combimeltas abound here)

 

Lots of Long Fangs with razors, lots of Wolf scouts and speeders (tornados, typhoons and tempests) for harrassment.

[Quillen]

If you are podding I would use the Pod Formation from Reload. It rocks. I ended up with 11 drop ships accidentally (won 7 on Ebay I was not expecting to win) and I used it. Put Logan in a pod with LongFangs with Meltas and a WolfGaurd with TDA and a Cyclone and PowerWeapn and SS. This is an awesome way to slam a position. First Pod scatters and the rest land in 24" of it as you want. So you can really pour some fire on the turn they land. That said thou, you will lack super heavy. And some guys on Vancouver island taught me nothing sucks more showing up to a gun fight with a knife. Meaning if they are using Super Heavies your in for a painful lose. Unless you focus a ton of melta fire on those Supers when you land.

[wolfpack]

Dunno about the meltas as usually two LR ultimas can pretty much make lotsa hurt on your opponents SH...but then again 5 total makes for some serious ouchy and planetary bombardment is always fun;)