Ethrion Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Rumours are pegging the 6th edition release as next summer. I would expect we'll see our new 'dex sometime after that. Hence my astonishment that Chaos Space Marines can go a whole edition without a codex - it's a 4th ed codex remember. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2742571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 For what it's worth, there's been a lot of speculation that Chaos will be one of the first codices for 6th edition and they may even be featured in the starter kit. Again, it's just speculation by fans based off this quote: Ok the ”Bombshell” I really need to use better wording… ”By the end of the next Olympics we will be treated to 6th ed Warhammer 40k” Now thaGrey Knight Codex Q&A Limited Time onlyt is something that people that follow GW trends have suspected for awhile. So really that is not that earth shattering. What makes 6thed potentially earth shattering is the version of AoBR we will get. For the first time in a long time neither Xenos nor the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman will be featured. Nor will the Sledgehammer of the Emperor be chosen to fill the starter box. What that means for all of us… we shall have to wait and see. The "Warriors of Roboute Guilliman" I personally interpret as literally meaning the Ultramarines, so it's likely we'll see another chapter as the protagonists. The lack of Xenos and the "Sledgehammer" (surely the Imperial Guard) is what is got most people going - the only enemies of the Imperium are either Xenos or Chaos. I honestly doubt we'll see Daemons in the starter kit, since I doubt GW would want to force players to use the Deep Strike mechanic for starter games. Which really only leaves CSM as the antagonists. Assuming, of course, that TastyTaste's source is correct. IMHO, it'll be better to have a new codex at the start of the edition, rather than having some awkward half-5th, half-6th edition rules. And let's just hope that GW doesn't decide to change design philosophy just before the CSM codex is due again... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2743031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 i agree, better to wait a bit longer so we get a real 6th edition codex, then to want it soon, and then get is semi-messed up when 6th gets released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2746528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Or be in the same unfortunate shoes as we are now and get a 6th ed. test codex. *shivers* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2746553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 For what it's worth, there's been a lot of speculation that Chaos will be one of the first codices for 6th edition and they may even be featured in the starter kit. Again, it's just speculation by fans based off this quote: Ok the ”Bombshell” I really need to use better wording… ”By the end of the next Olympics we will be treated to 6th ed Warhammer 40k” Now thaGrey Knight Codex Q&A Limited Time onlyt is something that people that follow GW trends have suspected for awhile. So really that is not that earth shattering. What makes 6thed potentially earth shattering is the version of AoBR we will get. For the first time in a long time neither Xenos nor the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman will be featured. Nor will the Sledgehammer of the Emperor be chosen to fill the starter box. What that means for all of us… we shall have to wait and see. The "Warriors of Roboute Guilliman" I personally interpret as literally meaning the Ultramarines, so it's likely we'll see another chapter as the protagonists. The lack of Xenos and the "Sledgehammer" (surely the Imperial Guard) is what is got most people going - the only enemies of the Imperium are either Xenos or Chaos. I honestly doubt we'll see Daemons in the starter kit, since I doubt GW would want to force players to use the Deep Strike mechanic for starter games. Which really only leaves CSM as the antagonists. Assuming, of course, that TastyTaste's source is correct. IMHO, it'll be better to have a new codex at the start of the edition, rather than having some awkward half-5th, half-6th edition rules. And let's just hope that GW doesn't decide to change design philosophy just before the CSM codex is due again... Taken literally that quote could certainly mean that it won't be Ultramarines in the box set. It could also mean any Codex Chapter if stretched a little. Could mean a new Black Templars or Dark Angels book maybe? It could also be that it's not any Space Marine chapter but that's unlikely as SMs are the flagship of 40K. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2746740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Or be in the same unfortunate shoes as we are now and get a 6th ed. test codex. *shivers* as a true nightlord you strike terror in my thoughts with such sayings !! It makes sense to have black templars in a new starters box, there are rumours about a new codex release for the Black templars, they have been in a starter box before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2748143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethrion Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Black Templars vs. Chaos in the 6th ed. box set then maybe? hmm... The Eternal Crusade vs. the Long War. And perfectly tied into the HH series... It seems like fate! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2748701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Black Templars vs. Chaos in the 6th ed. box set then maybe? hmm... The Eternal Crusade vs. the Long War. And perfectly tied into the HH series... It seems like fate! Or... hunt for the fallen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2748873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malphas Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Unfortunately, "I've heard rumours" usually translates to "I really wish". I doubt that there will be 4 specific books for Chaos, there just isn't enough material for each. The 4 Ruinous Powers can easily be accommodated within a single codex, along with renegades and cultists. There's plenty of material on each god to accomodate a codex. Look at the massive tome that is the Liber Chaotica (REVEL BROTHERS, FOR WE ARE DAMNED). All that would be required is a history of the actions of each legion, like in current codices releases, which would be awesome! To get away from the Black Legion fluff, and go into the more obscure conflicts we never hear about in which the Legions are mired (even within the Eye of Terror) would be a HUGE story injection that the fanbase would go rabid over. That's not to say I would mind a cult legion codex, but JEEBUS H. BISCUITS, MAN, I would froth at the mouth and sacrifice China to the Skull Throne for a World Eaters 'dex. Until we know for sure though, I encourage all of you to hold your breath in the vacuum. By the way, hi everybody. I'm new here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2765781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Another minor little rumour from ghost21 on Warseer. When asked about which armies will be in the starter kit for 6th edition, this was the response: it isnt its chaos n imperial Source. Ghost21 is a relatively new rumourmonger over there, but we'll see. It's also worth remembering that, even if it is true, this does not necessarily mean that Chaos will get a new codex at the same time. It would make sense, but unfortunately GW seems to be making less and less sense lately... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2765825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 By the way, hi everybody. I'm new here. *waves* a new skull for the throne :mellow: anyway im a firm believer the next box will be black templars and chaos, the templarts have filled a starter set before so i favour them over the unforgiven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2766018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 It's worth remembering that the armies included in the new editions have always been the biggest sellers from the prior edition. Also, for those concerned of going a whole edition without a new chaos dex need to put themselves in the mind of the Dark Angels, Necrons, Daemon hunters (and/or GK), Dark Eldar, Eldar and Tau (I think). Really, until this edition, Chaos, Orks and Loyalists have been regularly updated throughout previous editions, including 2 codices during 3rd edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2782768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincite Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Games Workshop will just give us back what we had in 3rd Ed. Rules for every legion, lots of choices for each god, lists that fit together and awesome wargear. And all will be happy. And... back to reality. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2784061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fimbul Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Another minor little rumour from ghost21 on Warseer. When asked about which armies will be in the starter kit for 6th edition, this was the response: it isnt its chaos n imperial Source. Ghost21 is a relatively new rumourmonger over there, but we'll see. It's also worth remembering that, even if it is true, this does not necessarily mean that Chaos will get a new codex at the same time. It would make sense, but unfortunately GW seems to be making less and less sense lately... Following up on some of the other rumors there it could be Chaos vs. Eldar (he didn't say it wasn't Chaos OR Imperial, just that it wasn't Chaos vs. Imperial :) ). By that I'm referring to the rumors that they want to focus more on the Chaos vs. Free races rather than the Imperium. Eldar are also primed for a new dex in that timeframe as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2798926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crandall87 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 The latest rumours suggest there will be two starter sets, one with CSM and one with Dark Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2798931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fimbul Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yes, but Ghost's reply on Warseer (where he said it wouldn't be "Chaos n Imperial") was to that rumor. Granted, I guess it doesn't rule out the split set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2799081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theis Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Y'all have heard that the first codex released after 6th edition (summer 2012) will be Chaos Legions? If not, head on over to; http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=15933 http://bloodofkittens.com/network/members/rideroftheerk/ to read for yourselves. The really interesting, with regard to this thread, bit; first real 6th edition codex: Codex Chaos Legions, really big release in three waves, doesn’t invalidate Codex Chaos Space Marines which gets extensive White Dwarf update as Codex Renegade Space Marines Rumors, grains of salt, etc., but potentially just a year away from what we've been waiting for... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2799434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Here's hoping it's true :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2799815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLBERZERKER Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 I can totally see them coming out with an awesome 6th edition codex. When they came out with the first 3rd edition codex and it was horrible, they made up for it with the second 3rd edition codex. They can't keep Chaos down because it's bad for business. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2802691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro_Protagonist Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 It can't be that bad for business based on the number of times people write about how they're using a loyalist dex to represent their armies. GW just looks at the numbers and says "Hey, everytime we make a new loyalist dex Chaos sales go up briefly." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2803047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheex Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Well, I for one am intrigued by the prospect of a new codex. According to the same rumour source, the Chaos Legions book isn't going to replace the CSM book. So, really, things cannot possibly get any worse as we'd still have access to the current codex anyway ;) Though there has also been talk of the current CSM book getting a White Dwarf update when Chaos Legions comes out to make it more of a Renegades book, so I guess there is still a chance it would screw around with things... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2805043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Frankly, there is far more reason for any given chaos legion to have its own codex than any Space Marine Chapter to, with the possible exceptions of Wolves and Templars. The only reason regular marine chapters get so much focus is becasue they're the big sellers to the kiddies. This is coming from a loyalist player too, so it's not just fan rage. I'd really like to see a codex like the old 'Haines dex - rules for marines marked by each god, plus an extra section with rules for fielding each legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2807819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLBERZERKER Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 It can't be that bad for business based on the number of times people write about how they're using a loyalist dex to represent their armies. GW just looks at the numbers and says "Hey, everytime we make a new loyalist dex Chaos sales go up briefly." How often do people use loyalist dex's? That pisses me off! People have no loyalty these days... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2807828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 It can't be that bad for business based on the number of times people write about how they're using a loyalist dex to represent their armies. GW just looks at the numbers and says "Hey, everytime we make a new loyalist dex Chaos sales go up briefly." How often do people use loyalist dex's? Quite often around here, mostly to represent Renegade marines without daemonic influences or newly turned Renegade chapters.That pisses me off!How come? People have no loyalty these days...Outside of being stubborn, why show loyalty to a bad product with mangled/missing background information and lacklustre options as well as options that when taken - punish you for wanting to be fluffy? :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2807840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLBERZERKER Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 It just seems to me they are fairweather chaos players. I believe that you stick to an army and don't run away when the codex isn't to your liking. IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/221872-new-chaos-codex-rumors/page/2/#findComment-2808536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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