Brother Nathan Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 As above. i dont se that hes much younger than dante but you never know, thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurb Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think he actually is much younger than Dante. Tha Bossman is really really old. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2654808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I don't think he can be anywhere near Dante's age: he was attached to the first company during the scouring of the Sin of Damnation 400 year ago, but he was still only a Lexicanium at the time: the lowest rank of Librarian. I don't see him being any older than 600, possibly even less than 500. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2654850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabgoi Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Dante has been Chapter Master for over a thousand years. Lysander who was lost in the warp for a thousand years cannot remember a time when Dante did not reign over the Bloods Angels. Figure as Lysander is a Captain he is at least two to three hundred years old. Also count that Dante was probably not made Chapter master in less then three hundred years and you have Dante at 1400 to 1600 years or more easy. Now, Mephiston have only been Mephiston since 941.M41, which is what 58 years? Prior to that he was still just Brother Calistarius. Even if he was old at that point, say 500 to 600 years old, he is still a young blood compared to Dante. And he is likely much younger then that. When it comes to Dante, everyone is a youngster that has not been intered in a Dreadnaught, and even most of them are probably younger. He is one of the few Chapter Masters so old that his exploits before becoming a chapter master have faded into history and accurate records cannot be found. And while Blood Angels are long lived for space marines (average marine gets to between 200 and 300 years old, Blood Angels can break 1,000), Dante blows even that out of the water. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2654868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Powers Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Not only that, he isn't some retired old fart either, he goes into combat with the best of them. I bet (if he isn't killed first) he could live another 1500 years. Heck, he's barely cracking middle aged! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2654994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 his fluff now also states (if i understood it right) that he basicly keeps going because he thinks the emperor will need the blood angels soon. so more or less hes staying around based on pure willpower? or am i not reading that right? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Captain Devlonir Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 his fluff now also states (if i understood it right) that he basicly keeps going because he thinks the emperor will need the blood angels soon. so more or less hes staying around based on pure willpower? or am i not reading that right? :D No, that's just his way to say: "Get off my lawn!" Sorry, it had to be done.. Also, check my quote in the signature from the BA Codex. He calls himself 'eleven hundred years'. Or at least, that is the time he has been fighting. Only thing is: It's not clear when he said this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 aye, indeed. get off my lawn :D 3rd edition codex states at the start of what battle/campaign (and IIRC) and what year that quote was made. but since im at work i cant check :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Mephiston has to be a time traveller for this timeline to work if you include Space Hulk fluff. But its ok. Space hulk is ~1100 years prior to 'Modern' 40K. So We know Mephiston is older then that. Or rather Callistarius is, Mephiston has really only been around since armageddon. Edit: Dem I think that it only says at the start of the Alchonis Campaign. Which we know takes place after Mephiston becomes Mephiston cause they talk about the Alchonis campaign in thebooks. (And if Im not mis remembering dont they say some of the Space Hulk Dudes are Alchonis Vets too?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 mmm should do a dante thread too, and note its never said dante is the oldest blood angel. last i heard his mentor was still alive... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Space hulk is ~1100 years prior to 'Modern' 40K. No, the back story puts the disaster at Secoris at 1003 years before 'Modern' 40k - but the actions depicted in the game are when the Space Hulk reappears 600 years later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Space hulk is ~1100 years prior to 'Modern' 40K. No, the back story puts the disaster at Secoris at 1003 years before 'Modern' 40k - but the actions depicted in the game are when the Space Hulk reappears 600 years later. Yes but they only send Vets from teh first one back into the second dont they? QED Calistarius had to be in the first? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yes but they only send Vets from teh first one back into the second dont they? QED Calistarius had to be in the first? Er.. in a word.. No. Only 50 marines survived the disaster at Secoris. During the rematch they sent in 80 Terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 There's more than one Space Hulk in the universe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 There's more than one Space Hulk in the universe. True, but Calistarius has only been mentioned in reference to one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabgoi Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 The qoute about Dante saying he has been fighting for eleven hundred years was at the start of the Alchonis campaign, but no actual date is given in the 3rd edition BA codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yes but they only send Vets from teh first one back into the second dont they? QED Calistarius had to be in the first? Er.. in a word.. No. Only 50 marines survived the disaster at Secoris. During the rematch they sent in 80 Terminators. guess thats what I get for trying to remember things. :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222124-mephy/#findComment-2655583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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