The_son_of_Dorn Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 So Khârn is the human variant of Khorne Lucius is the human variant of slaneesh Typhus is the human variant of Nurgle And Arhiminan (dont quite know how to spell his name) is thee human variant of Zteentch All empowerd by the warp and their god obviously I use the words 'human form' lightly. Which are the greater deamons that represent them though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Keeper of Secrets = S Blood Thirster = K Great Unclean One = N Lord of Change = T Or do you mean named greater daemons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 well Khârn is khorns champion for sure . lucius aint better then most slany champions , he just has a name . tyfus has his own agenda and actualy works against mortarion will. and ahrim from the tzeench followers perspective is a heretic .the god of change and mutation ends up with followers that never change [which is more a nurgle thing] , no wonder he got banished. the gods do have real champions , demons that are powerful like no other but summoning them to the material realm is extremly hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Riorik Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Named Greater Daemons or just general greater daemons? Great Unclean one for Nurgle Keeper of Secrets for Slaanesh Lord of Change for Tzeentch Bloodthirster for Khorne Then there are a few named ones in the Daemon Codex Kairos Fateweaver for Tzeentch Ku'gath for Nurgle Skarbrand for Khorne No named greater daemon of Slaanesh in the book but the 2nd edition Chaos book has a Keeper of Secrets named N'Kari. But there are other Greater Daemons in there for the other Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 thank you rik, more specific names in general ;) just looking at points and skills etc etc. what about lesser deamons? like skull taker (the blood letter?) what ae the other gods equivilents? Oh and another thing, I'm aware tyhpus works against mortarion, but doesnt that mean theres a chance mortarion can besved? i've never read any instance of him in ballte, can anyone post examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 The Daemon Lords from Apocalypse are supposed to be the most powerful of their kind ever summoned... So powerful that those that summon them (and much of the planet) usually die horribly for even presuming they could control such power! Scabeiathrax the Bloated - Nurgle Zarakynel Bringer of Torments - Slaanesh An'Ggrath The Unbound - Khorne Aetaos'Rau'Keres Slayer of Souls -Tzeentch (That was a spelling challenge) There are 4 Daemon Princes (mentioned in the Old Background, they had rules in 3rd ed) who are "among the most powerful of their kind". Foulspawn - Nurgle N'Kari - Slaanesh Doombreed - Khorne M'Kachan -Tzeentch M'Kachan will probably make an appearance in some form or other in the Daemon hunter codex...He is the famed nemesis of Brother Captain Stern of the Grey Knights. Doombreed and N'Kari fought for Horus in the Siege of Terra, although probably not on the same battlefield as they have a deep hatred of each others patron gods. Foulspawn is the only human champion of the chaos gods to both survive and prosper after being mutated into a chaos spawn (apparently Nurgle is "deeply fond" of him!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewlay Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Foulspawn - NurgleN'Kari - Slaanesh Doombreed - Khorne M'Kachan -Tzeentch I know he is in WFB, but isn't N'Kari a KoS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Doombreed and N'Kari fought for Horus in the Siege of Terra, although probably not on the same battlefield as they have a deep hatred of each others patron gods. when emps entered horus room they were standing on both sides of horus . and emps banished both with a simple move of hand. that is why he is called the god emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I know he is in WFB, but isn't N'Kari a KoS? Wasn't origionally... "N'Kari was born on an isolated, backward world which has been trapped in the centre of a violent warp storm for millennia." Codex Chaos (the yellow one with Abbadon on the cover). ...but the Fluff changes all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Gah! browser Glitched when I Pressed submit post! Apologies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Doh! see above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Doombreed and N'Kari fought for Horus in the Siege of Terra, although probably not on the same battlefield as they have a deep hatred of each others patron gods. when emps entered horus room they were standing on both sides of horus . and emps banished both with a simple move of hand. that is why he is called the god emperor. It's that story that fuels my personal belief that the Daemon Primarchs are fundamentally more powerful than any of their predecessor Daemon Princes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 well I wouldnt say that , but they still did have physical bodies after the change [sucks for those that died as DPs because even if they are back now , its just warp bodies so banishment works agains them]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 well overall id say that nurgle had the biggest influence asit was after all a nurgle plauge that ultimately struck Horus down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 well overall id say that nurgle had the biggest influence asit was after all a nurgle plauge that ultimately struck Horus down. Thought the Emps literally blew him away (destroying mind,soul and much of his body) with his psychic whoop-ass!? Earlier Horus was injured by a disease ridden (presumably Nurgle) champion which led to his corruption by the chaos powers, but I dont think he got a Nurgle infection, his near death was more to do with the blade he was wounded with... Mortarion on the otherhand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The Anathame that struck down Horus was Kinebrach tech (a minor xenos race allied to the Interex), it is the same weapon that Fulgrim likely used on Roboute Guilliman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 The Anathame that struck down Horus was Kinebrach tech (a minor xenos race allied to the Interex), it is the same weapon that Fulgrim likely used on Roboute Guilliman. Which does put quite a dark spin on the rumour that Roboute is slowly healing...Horus only overcame the wound it inflicted with the intervention of the Chaos powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda_ Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I think that without Erebus, Horus won't have accepted their help and stand like Guilliman. One other difference is that Guilliman had a better knowledge of the chaotic nature. But yes, Erebus was manipulated by the Chaos powers. They started little, then got stronger and stronger allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 But yes, Erebus was manipulated by the Chaos powers. They started little, then got stronger and stronger allies. Manipulation implies that he was coerced; I would think Erebus happily worked for them without the need to manipulate him in any way. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Erebus is an interesting example of a human champion of the gods... in that he is allied to them all not one in particular.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clewz Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Theres Ghargatuloth, Prince of a Thousand Faces, Daemon Lord of Tzeentch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewlay Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Also isn't Azazel a DP or a KoS, because he is supposedly the greatest of Slaanesh's followers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Cambrius Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Doombreed's a very brutal Daemon Prince of Khorne, I believe he's partially responsible for the extinction of 2 chapters, one the Warhawks and the other was the Venerators. Cambrius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 and then theres Ka'bandha blood thirster of khorn, whom appaently has taken more skulls than any other, who had shattered sanguiniuses legs and killed 1/3 of the ba legion. and then faced him again at terra to be defeated by sangy, and keeps getting into the bas affairs to his own repeted demise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlarshark Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 and then theres Ka'bandha blood thirster of khorn, whom appaently has taken more skulls than any other, who had shattered sanguiniuses legs and killed 1/3 of the ba legion. and then faced him again at terra to be defeated by sangy Untill very recently the Khorne daemon that Sang' fought at Terra was assumed to be Doombreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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