Crimson Fisting Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 As stated in C:SM, if you choose not to equip your assault Marines with jump packs, then you can give them a pod, rhino or razor for free. My question is, if I wanted to not equip them packs, but instead embark them in a Crusader, would I subtract 35-40pts from their total for not taking one of the dedicated transports either? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 No. That is not an option in the current marine codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 I think you misunderstand me. I don't mean take the Crusader as a dedicated transport. I mean take no jump packs, then purchase the Crusader seperately and later embark the squad in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 In Codex Space Marines if you take off the jump packs you must give them a rhino or drop pod. But if you wnat them to embark in a Land Raider later that is legal. But there would be no points discount. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 The wording in the codex is that if you remove the packs then you may give them a rhino or pod. It doesn't say you must. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 I think you misunderstand me. I don't mean take the Crusader as a dedicated transport. I mean take no jump packs, then purchase the Crusader seperately and later embark the squad in it. In Codex Space Marines if you take off the jump packs you must give them a rhino or drop pod. But if you want them to embark in a Land Raider later that is legal. But there would be no points discount. You either take the Jump Packs at the standard price, or get the discount and take one of the Options listed.. It's an "either, or" scenario. The only way to get them into a Raider is to choose a Dedicated Transport from the list and later embark them into that Raider.. But as Brother Tyler stated if you take the discount you take the Transport. EDIT: Dammit ninja'd with more info ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 The wording in the codex is that if you remove the packs then you may give them a rhino or pod. It doesn't say you must. Ok, so I remembered it wrong. But if you don't there is no discount in points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 The wording in the codex is that if you remove the packs then you may give them a rhino or pod. It doesn't say you must. Ok, so I remembered it wrong. But if you don't there is no discount in points. Now that I think about it, it'd be a good tactic to just take the empty rhino and zip it around as decoy/ distraction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Now that I think about it, it'd be a good tactic to just take the empty rhino and zip it around as decoy/ distraction. Or take the Drop Pod with a Deathwind Launcher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 It might be worth mentioning that, while Codex:Space Marines doesn't give a discount on transports other than Rhinos or Drop Pods, Codex:Blood Angels does give a discount for any dedicated transport the unit takes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 yep- but in c:ba a landraider can be a dedicated transport for just about anyone... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2656976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 It might be worth mentioning that, while Codex:Space Marines doesn't give a discount on transports other than Rhinos or Drop Pods, Codex:Blood Angels does give a discount for any dedicated transport the unit takes. yep- but in c:ba a landraider can be a dedicated transport for just about anyone... Two more reasons for me to hate, "we have access to everything under the sun, even if it makes no sense" Blood Angels. Stormravens = Raven Guard Infernus Pistols/ Hand Flamers = Salamanders Super-fast vehicles = White Scars Stupid, stupid Blood Angels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2657043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 OK let's stop the useless BA-bashing please. Rules question has been answered... move along... nothing more to see here... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2657044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 It might be worth mentioning that, while Codex:Space Marines doesn't give a discount on transports other than Rhinos or Drop Pods, Codex:Blood Angels does give a discount for any dedicated transport the unit takes. yep- but in c:ba a landraider can be a dedicated transport for just about anyone... Two more reasons for me to hate, "we have access to everything under the sun, even if it makes no sense" Blood Angels. Stormravens = Raven Guard Infernus Pistols/ Hand Flamers = Salamanders Super-fast vehicles = White Scars Stupid, stupid Blood Angels actualy super fast vehicles has always been a blood angel thing. BA are the only chapter even more into CC than the wolves are, and they want to get ther as fast as possible Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2657054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Yea, yea. Everyone always bitches about Ultras being GWs poster boys, but one need only look at the new BA dex to see who their beloved pretty boys are. And, I challenge the claim that the BA love CC more than the Wolves. I think they'd challenge that too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2657070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Yea, yea. Everyone always bitches about Ultras being GWs poster boys, but one need only look at the new BA dex to see who their beloved pretty boys are. And, I challenge the claim that the BA love CC more than the Wolves. I think they'd challenge that too. I would not challenge that, as a member of the death company and a father of a member. ;) Besides, BA were the poster boys loooong before Ultras stole our thunder. ;p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2657343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 OK this one is straying into areas not rule-related so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222259-assault-squad-points-quandary/#findComment-2657466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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