The Son of Russ Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Brothers, what can i coat my models in without them looking shiny yet not chipping? My Njal and Canis keep getting metallic glints shining through their faces, or pelts, or weapons due to them chipping, same with all my metal models, and i find it difficult to repatch them! is there like something i can use to protect them? i heard someone say varnish earlier on a different thread or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucian Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 A couple of coats of gloss varnish is pretty durable, and then a layer of matte varnish or satin varnish. To make them not shiny. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2656933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Hammerhand Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I use Vallejo (game color) satin varnish. Not shiny at all and it protects the models very well. You also only need a single layer of it. Alternatively there is the sealant artists use to protect paintings done in charcoal etc. This also works well, but because it's sprayed on you need to be a bit careful as it can collect in the recesses and look a bit nasty, but that stuff also works quite well. You can buy it in most, if not all shops that sell everything else artists need. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2657023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhawk3015 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I've had luck with washing the pewter models in brush cleaner first to get that shine off them. Once that happens haven't had an issue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2657134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Son of Russ Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 A couple of coats of gloss varnish is pretty durable, and then a layer of matte varnish or satin varnish. To make them not shiny. ^_^ Thanks, do Games workshop supply both of these? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2662559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 A couple of coats of gloss varnish is pretty durable, and then a layer of matte varnish or satin varnish. To make them not shiny. :) Thanks, do Games workshop supply both of these? Yep (at least they used to). Both should be readily available at any hobby shop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2662845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 The Games Workshop matte spray, I use is called "Purity Seal." There was another one for the glossly look.. I forget what they called it. Some stores still carry them, hobby shops that sell GW still have a few on stock if your lucky to find any. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2662929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hajime Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 You can get 'ardcoat in a pot like paint or purity in a spray can Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I use http://www.krylon.com/products/uvresistant_clear/ in matte, not gloss.. the UV protection keeps your paints from getting too dingy if they see a lot of sunlight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 the UV protection keeps your paints from getting too dingy if they see a lot of sunlight. i'll remember to add sunscreen when i'm painting up my next batch of warriors :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 the UV protection keeps your paints from getting too dingy if they see a lot of sunlight. i'll remember to add sunscreen when i'm painting up my next batch of warriors ;) -___- Ever had a poster/picture sit on your wall for years, then you remove it and can see a square on the wall where the poster was b/c the paint is a different color? That's why. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfenstein Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I use Vallejo (game color) satin varnish. Not shiny at all and it protects the models very well. You also only need a single layer of it. This is what I use as well. Works well in my opinion. But then again, I think everything in Vallejo works extremely well ;) That being said, I don't use sprays due to seeing other peoples mistakes sadly. Maybe I am just way to cautious? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Hammerhand Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Maybe I am just way to cautious? Possibly. But then again, if you've just spent countless hours painting a model, and you don't have enough practice with sprays, it is easy to mess all that work up. I've used the stuff on rank and file fantasy models first because if I had messed up, it wouldn't have mattered too much. The trick is to just spray in burts of less than a second (in other words, as short as you possibly can), let it dry, and then do it again. And always keep your distance (they reccommend 30cm or something I believe, and they've a reason for doing so ;) ). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 the UV protection keeps your paints from getting too dingy if they see a lot of sunlight. i'll remember to add sunscreen when i'm painting up my next batch of warriors :lol: -___- Ever had a poster/picture sit on your wall for years, then you remove it and can see a square on the wall where the poster was b/c the paint is a different color? That's why. ehh yeah I know, same goes with decals on vehicles, or car bras... why so serious? I was joking around ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfenstein Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Maybe I am just way to cautious? Possibly. But then again, if you've just spent countless hours painting a model, and you don't have enough practice with sprays, it is easy to mess all that work up. I've used the stuff on rank and file fantasy models first because if I had messed up, it wouldn't have mattered too much. The trick is to just spray in burts of less than a second (in other words, as short as you possibly can), let it dry, and then do it again. And always keep your distance (they reccommend 30cm or something I believe, and they've a reason for doing so ;) ). I know how to do it, in theory, just don't see a point in changing something if it isn't broken as the saying goes. Plus, I get to keep my hands on it more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I know how to do it, in theory, just don't see a point in changing something if it isn't broken as the saying goes. Plus, I get to keep my hands on it more! I know you're referring to something else, but as a broad statement precautionary to anyone it might help, handling miniatures too often without some form of varnish/protection (or even despite it over prolonged periods), the oils on your fingers can discolor, age, or dilute the paint on the mini, altering its vibrancy... this is extremely apparent on lighter painting schemes (particularly skull white, etc). I'll often spray varnish my minis multiple times while finishing one to sort of "save" the individual layers of paint highlights because I've never been able to mount a mini on say a cork pedestal while I paint it, so I'm always touching it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Hammerhand Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I've never been able to mount a mini on say a cork pedestal while I paint it, so I'm always touching it. A little off topic here, but why don't you just glue them on their base before painting them? that way you don't have to touch them at all. What I do is to completely design the base first (this also helps to suggest that the model is standing "on" the base rather than "in" it because his feet aren't half covered in the sand he's supposed to be standing on), which includes painting the whole thing. Then I basecoat the mini (before gluing it on the base, mind you, so I don't ruin the base) and then stick it on the base. This means that I don't have to worry about messing the base up while basecoating, or the mini afterwards with PVA glue or sand getting stuck on it, and it's also handy because desiging a base after you've spent hours on the models seems to be more effort (which I why I used to end up with a lot of painted models that didn't have designed bases). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 A little off topic here, but why don't you just glue them on their base before painting them? that way you don't have to touch them at all. I've never glued minis to bases for one reason. You can't always get a brush to all the little nooks and crannies once the base is on... particularly for 40mm terminator bases. It's also why I don't glue on backpacks and most arms until they're painted. As for worrying about getting glue on my mini along with the base, I water the glue down a bit and apply with a brush. Also, for the most part I like when models are somewhat "in" the base. All that armor and weaponry has to be pretty damn heavy, so you gotta imagine these marines are leaving behind some pretty big tracks. Visual aids! http://www.sciencephotogallery.co.uk/image/astronaut-footprints-on-the-moon_1694873.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222272-model-protection/#findComment-2663271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.