amphoterik Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The codex states that priests have a blood chalice. I believe in the fluff it mentions that a piece of the chalice is put into the narcethium, so that an apothecary can be used as a priest. My question is: would it be reasonable to use the DC backpack that has the chalice on it to denote a priest without a narcethium? Would that work as far as WYSIWYG? My assumption is that it would. There is no priest model and the rules state that they have a chalice. Does it really matter if they are not holding the chalice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Sanguinius Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Well, actually the Apothecarii are our Priests and there is also an official model: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod550017a Cheers Sang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2657838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pate Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 But there Is a priest model:) http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod550017a Enjoy:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2657839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amphoterik Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Wow, not sure how I missed that. Anyway, my question still stands. Since their gear list states a blood chalice and not an apothecary off hand, can the chalice count? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2657841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Sanguinius Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 As the Fluff says, Brother Corbulo is the only priest with a chalice. All the other ones take the narthecium. But if you would like to use this backpack go for it. I do not see any problem with that. Cheers Sang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2657848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losfer Werds Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I was putting a Sang Priest together with the same backpack chalice but I chopped it off the DC one and put it on a Apoth pack. I thought it looked pretty good. As far as WYSIWYG goes it's entirely up to you and the people you play with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2657851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parcival Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Since their gear list states a blood chalice and not an apothecary off hand, can the chalice count? Yes. Personally, I model all priests with Narcethium and Chalice. (you know, when you are called Parcival, you have something o live up to) I use my old miniatures that only have a Narcethium as Sanguinary Noviiates in my Honor Guards. If you want to see a great model with only the Chalice, check out GW's Sanguinary Priest Terminator conversion (it's on the GW website or in 2010 April's White Dwarf). It's built out of an ordinary Terminator model with a Death Company bare head and Corbulo's Grail. (I bought a 2nd Corbulo just to build one, too...) Long story short: as long as the model either has a Narcethium or a Chalice, I'd feel ok with it. However, if you plan to simply take the DC backpack, I'd consider this to be a pretty meager attempt as that Chalice is more of an ornament than a priest's ceremonial tool. I guess you could run your army with that, but in my eyes it's kinda geap for a proud chapter like the BA. Just check out the picture in the Sanguinary Priest entry in the Codex and you know what I mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2657857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amphoterik Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 I suppose I could cut the chalice off the backpack and put in their hand. That would look pretty good. i just don't like the narthecium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2657914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 All my priests are Apothecary models (or Corbulo or the priest linked above) Between the DC and SG boxes there are plenty of bits with grails on them, model up some grail shoulder pads and a nice backpack and you should be fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2658007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 grail bits = blood chalice. HG entry, novitiate has blood chalice, Elite priests have blood chalice, Corbulo has a chalice of blood. Same item as per FAQ. There's a note in the codex saying that those that don't have a grail, as they're rare, make up for it with a narthecium. In short, a cup will do as long as it looks significant rather than painted on so as not to be confused with mere iconography. Certainly easier and cheaper than getting a narthecium arm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2658020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judaz Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 How does WYSIWYG work? The models don't have to be modelled with all the things that they have as wargear do they? We only have to make sure that anything that we add to the model, like plasma pistol or power weapon are there, right? I have painted my priests power armour half white, half red. No other model in my army have any white on them except for the wings, so it's quite easy to see who's the priest in the squad. Could the absence of a Narcethium stop me in a strict WYSIWYG-tournament? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2658040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parcival Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I am using the Books & Candles set by Maxmini for cheap and good looking Chalices. Please note that I am not affiliated with Maxmini, I am just a fan of that set of bits as it comes in handy for every BA player. In terms of WYSIWYG there is always some freedom of interpretation, like e.g. not every Space Marines needs to have two types of grenades modeled onto to show that he has Frag & Krack Grenades. However, I believe a model should display its main weapon(s) and when it comes to the Sanguinary Priest, I consider the Chalice and the Narcethium to be their maun "weapon", Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2658206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 How does WYSIWYG work? The models don't have to be modelled with all the things that they have as wargear do they? We only have to make sure that anything that we add to the model, like plasma pistol or power weapon are there, right? I have painted my priests power armour half white, half red. No other model in my army have any white on them except for the wings, so it's quite easy to see who's the priest in the squad. Could the absence of a Narcethium stop me in a strict WYSIWYG-tournament? It'd require the absense of either a narthecium or a grail to be DQ-ed. If your priests look like priests without them, it'd take a jerk making a complaint and a jerk of a to agreeing with him. Unlikely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222351-wysiwyg-question/#findComment-2659237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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