Eikrem Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Alright guys, Im looking for some feedback on these three as well as hoping someone can kindly (or not, we are Wolves after all) in the direction of a tutorial for doing the company mark on Logans shoulder pad. Logan Grimnar http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/HQs/LoganFront.jpg http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/HQs/LoganBack.jpg Bjorn the Fell-handed http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/HQs/BjornFront.jpg http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/HQs/BjornBack.jpg Ragnar Blackmane http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/HQs/RagnarFront.jpg http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/HQs/RagnarBack.jpg Alternative Ragnar, WIP http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/HQs/RagnarWIP.jpg Thanks for looking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 What I'm having to do for my marks is painting the shoulder adeptus grey, then putting the black "wolf that stalks between the stars" decal over it, painting the decal up in layers of grey to white to give it a value scale and definition, then going back over the shoulder pad and outlining the (now white) decal in black ink or watered chaos black. Here's my Logan, posted in the Painting/Conversions thread.. not the best shot of his shoulder, but hopefully you can get a feel for what I'm talking about. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l7/Wulfebane/Untitled-4.jpg Also, that Ragnar conversion with the Gabriel Seth sword is gunna look badass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2661723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chino Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There's a really good tutorial here on how to freehand the various Space Wolves symbols. It helped a great deal when painting up Logan Grimnar. The only issue I have with your models, Eikrem, is that Some of the colours seem a little washed out. The flesh and bone coloured portions might need another go over, unless its just the camera that's causing this. For your flesh tones, you might want to try a basecoat of Tallarn Flesh, followed by and Ogryn Flesh wash then successive highlights of Tallarn Flesh mixed with Bleached Bone. This way, you'll get some nice definition between the hair and the face. I especially spent quite a bit of time on Logan's face, as I thought it was one of the best facial sculpts throughout the entire model range. As for your bone colours, such as the Crux Terminatus, I suggest using a Dheneb Stone base coat followed by a wash of Gryphon Sepia to give it colour and then Devlan Mud to shade it. From there, use a 50/50 mix of Dheneb Stone and Gryphon Sepia to highlight while working your way up to Dheneb Stone. You might also want to use a 50/50 mix of Dheneb Stone and Skull White for the extreme highlights. If you'd like, I could post my Logan Grimnar model to give you an idea of what these two methods result in. Otherwise, your painting is very clean and I'd enjoy playing against a stunning looking army such as yours. As well, I very much enjoy the work you put into your bases, especially Bjorn's. I second Wulfebane's comment on your Ragnar conversion - if I'm not mistaken, you used the original head and that speaks for you skills with greenstuff. Keep up the good work! Edit: Forgot to add, your metallics look spot on as well, considering how difficult it can be to get a solid coat of gold onto metal models. You also might want to touch up the claws on Logan's cloak, as one of them seemed to have some of the paint chip off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2661830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 A basecoat of Iyanden Darksun allow you to lay down a much more solid layer of Burnished Gold or Shining Gold. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2661843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeninja Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Great Conversion of Ragnar. A buddy built one that I bought from him that is the new Chaos Lord model converted into Ragnar. He is using that Eviscerator. I really like how you did yours. Better than some of the Khan into Ragnar conversions I have seen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2661871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eikrem Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Thanks for all the feedback so far guys. Having looked at the photos again now I can see what you mean chino, and I will be going back to add further highlights to flesh and bone areas to bring them out a little more. I may have to invest in a few more paints as well, as most of the ones you mention I do not currently have. I think the photos themselves are pretty dark as well, which is helping to wash the colour out as well, but my general aim for all my models is to have them being pretty toned down and gritty. Wulfebane, your Logan looks really good as well. Thanks for the link as well chino, I could remember seeing that tutorial, but couldnt find it. You are also spot on with your observation, I left the original Seth head in place and used greenstuff with a top knot from another head to create Ragnars hair. Bikeninja, I don't think Ive seen any Khan/Ragnar conversions, if you've got any pics of one, can you whack them up so I can take a look please. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2662387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Bikeninja, I don't think Ive seen any Khan/Ragnar conversions, if you've got any pics of one, can you whack them up so I can take a look please. *Bam* http://www.spacewithinspace.net/images/spacewolves/greatcompany/ragnarblackmane.jpg DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2662817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 *ZING* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2662836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chino Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 *bows before DV8* I'm pretty sure I've seen the entire army at the Scarborough Games Workshop. Its pretty mind bottling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2662937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eikrem Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 That is awesome DV8, hats off to you sir. Just out of interest, how long did it take (approximately) to produce that Ragnar? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I love the little touches like the purity seals on the interior of the cloak and recreating the bracer design from the original model. Also, seeing DV8's version reminded me.. Eikrem, you're of course entitled your preference, but Ragnar is now widely believed to have black hair. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eikrem Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 Aye, that is true Wulfebane. The model itself I bought back in 2nd ed, so I decided to honour that by keeping his hair blonde with yellow casings on the weapons. My next Ragnar Im still torn over whether to go with the more up to date thinking of black hair, or leave it how it was originally intended... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Aye, that is true Wulfebane. The model itself I bought back in 2nd ed, so I decided to honour that by keeping his hair blonde with yellow casings on the weapons. My next Ragnar Im still torn over whether to go with the more up to date thinking of black hair, or leave it how it was originally intended... Go ginger! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I'm pretty sure I've seen the entire army at the Scarborough Games Workshop. Its pretty mind bottling. I'm probably taking the army home tomorrow. Will probably leave either my Blood Angels or my (more likely) Fantasy army there to help the store promote the new wave of Fantasy stuff that's being released (plus Tomb Kings is being re-released soon, so it'll be nice for the store to have a Vampire Counts army on display). That and I miss my Wolves...they've been there for months now :lol: That is awesome DV8, hats off to you sir. Just out of interest, how long did it take (approximately) to produce that Ragnar? About 2 days to convert (total only about 5 or 6 hours...most of it was just waiting for the Green Stuff to cure), and 1 day to paint. Also, seeing DV8's version reminded me.. Eikrem, you're of course entitled your preference, but Ragnar is now widely believed to have black hair. Technically he's blonde, so wouldn't Ragnar having black hair be the "preference" of the community, and blonde be what's canon? I should have a go at making a blonde Ragnar... DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eikrem Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 I should have a go at making a blonde Ragnar... Do it DV8. Would you do it as another conversion of Ragnar, or just use the original, rather static, model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfebane Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Technically he's blonde, so wouldn't Ragnar having black hair be the "preference" of the community, and blonde be what's canon? Hehe, Things change. Lores change. Yes the canon is blonde, but he hasn't been blonde since 3E and the Space Wolf Omnibus. That was years ago, so the old fogies are the only ones that remember. To be clear, I do agree with you regarding canon. Also, I don't care if he's blonde, black, or wearing a tutu. Just saying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I should have a go at making a blonde Ragnar... Do it DV8. Would you do it as another conversion of Ragnar, or just use the original, rather static, model? Probably convert up a new one. It's just a matter of finding time, since my project list is pretty full for the next few months. Till at least April, and then past that when Grey Knights are released :P Hehe, Things change. Lores change. Yes the canon is blonde, but he hasn't been blonde since 3E and the Space Wolf Omnibus. That was years ago, so the old fogies are the only ones that remember. Oiy! Don't make me teach you a lesson whelps. Don't ye forget who has the longer fangs around 'ere! :) DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obs0l3te Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I usually judge a special character by the fact that I can tell who it is with out thinking about it... THAT has Ragnar written all over it..awesome Job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2663534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaleOpener Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Great pics, but that Blackmane has some creepy looking eyeballs. As for Logan's icon there are a few reasons... 1. Just use the wrong~color icons from GW, and paint the Great Wolf the correct color. 2. You can do it freehand, by getting an art pen with white or grey ink. 3. I love the SW sheet that Forge World made, as it shows all the icons in the right colors plus the the right sizes for power armor/terminator armor/vehicle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2665240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eikrem Posted March 2, 2011 Author Share Posted March 2, 2011 A couple of better shots of the Great Wolf. Still got to finish off that shoulder marking, but Im busy getting stuck into the Ragnar conversion and the Games Day Wolf Priest. http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/Logan/IMGP2064.jpg http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx75/FoolishBadger/Logan/IMGP2061.jpg Thanks for all the comments guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2676530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Logan looks great. The only thing I am not sure about is the colour of the axeblade. The red doesnt really seem to work with the rest of the model. Maybe a bit of a fuss to change now, but it is up to you. - Natanael Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222607-a-few-hqs/#findComment-2676563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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