Montuhotep Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Ok, I am torn and I don't mind admitting it. I have been running a trio of 'stock' Furioso dreads and am now getting around to the idea of giving one a frag cannon because it looks like it could be most useful against grunts like Orks and IG. Is it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Frag cannon + bloodfist/heavy flamer = win. 3 templates AND assault at ST. 10?! yesplease. I have used them quite a few times and have had pretty good luck with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 They're pretty badass. I had a recent very close game against Chaos, and my Dread more or less clawed me back a draw. He took out a unit of plague marines in cover with the two frag templates and the heavy flamer template, and then ran over and slaughtered the normal chaos marine unit making a rush for the objective. Slaughters infantry like no tomorrow, really. And strength 6 rending means if you're lucky you can take potshots at tanks, if you keep the meltagun on the bloodfist instead of the heavy flamer he's pretty good at it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Oh hell yes, take them and get 'em up close and personal - dont hold back. They will eat infantry on toast and speaking of toast id recommend a drop pod and a HF near the infantry unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I do like them BUT I would LOVE them if I could chuck them on a Furi Libby But alas thanks to the FAQ the Lib Dread is poos :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Has anyone doubled them up and put them to use, frag cannon on each side?? Any success? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrog Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Has anyone doubled them up and put them to use, frag cannon on each side?? Any success? That was something I wanted to try, but I don't think you can. You can replace either fist with a cannon, but not both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 You can only change ONE arm to a frag. I prefer keeping the melta arm and adding a magna grapple. It's MUCH better versus medium (6-10) and small units (1-5) of tougher models... and can rip through tanks. Versus large units, it's unlikely either way you'll kill the fist(s). Further, in my opinion, blood talons are a better anti-infantry/anti-horde dread choice and suit a Hflamer best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Funny you should ask, i had one game before i read the rules, and let me say 18 dead Tau warriors is why we can only have one....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zid Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 frag cannons are amazing; simply put. They can hurt armor, hordes, and marines, all the same! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Frag cannon + bloodfist/heavy flamer = win. 3 templates AND assault at ST. 10?! yesplease. I have used them quite a few times and have had pretty good luck with them. That is my sentiment as well. I think that non mech lists will see a rise in power over the next two years. A pair of Blood Talons are aces but I think there are better options such as the frag cannon. G :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2662992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d503 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So you can't have a librarian dread with a frag cannon? aww :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2663696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 if blood talons wernt as goood id definately consider one... (foc makes things tight...) so many good options... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2663705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So you can't have a librarian dread with a frag cannon? aww :P Sadly, nope. I really want to test out the frag cannon, haven't built a dread with one yet though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2663718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 if blood talons wernt as goood id definately consider one... (foc makes things tight...) so many good options... Me thinks that the Frag Cannon looks way cool and is rather effective but the concept of Blood Talons and their sheer potential makes me want to always take them over the Frag Cannon. That being said I think the Blood Talons are better suited to the Storm Raven assault role and the Frag Cannon is perhaps better in a Drop Pod roll with all the rocking templates. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2663848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 if blood talons wernt as goood id definately consider one... (foc makes things tight...) so many good options... Me thinks that the Frag Cannon looks way cool and is rather effective but the concept of Blood Talons and their sheer potential makes me want to always take them over the Frag Cannon. That being said I think the Blood Talons are better suited to the Storm Raven assault role and the Frag Cannon is perhaps better in a Drop Pod roll with all the rocking templates. This is exactly how i do mine. DC Dread with Talons in a raven, Frag Cannon/HF Furioso in a Drop Pod. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2663877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Armadillo Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Fragioso with melta and magna in a drop pod. Plunk 2 of those down in turn 1 and watch the panic start. Don't expect them to live the whole game, but it certainly messes up any plans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2663980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zid Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I used the frag cannon exclusively for a while there. But I find it always came up short because my furioso would get bogged down in CC against even basic marines. On average you'll hit and kill 1 marine per combat with frag/BF combo... so it was too easy to get bogged down. Same with gaunts, who'd charge and keep my furioso locked in CC for the whole damn game after I shot them up :*( Thus is why I started using talons. I no longer get stuck in CC the whole game, and I still have the potential to pop tanks. Hell, just this past weekend my furioso charged some incubi. They couldn't hurt it, so I rolled: killed 2 the first swing, then hit and wounded over and over until the whole squad was dead @_@ BT are just too powerful to resist so now I'm a firm believer in em! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2664360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Another fan of the Talons here to, however I have just recieved a Frag Cannon from a bitz site so keen to test it out on my FW dread :down: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222686-frag-cannon/#findComment-2664413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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