Lord Captain Sam Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Assuming you want to use a JP Libby in a DoA army, would you give his honor guard meltas? And, aside from Shield, what would you give the Libby, since his retinue wouldn't be much good for hand to hand? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You could always give him Smite or Blood Lance if you are wantin to go shooty Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2662829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zid Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 If your gonna run a libby w/ pack with an HG I'd recommend going CC then. Take rage and shield and blow things up. If your gonna use shooty HG (4 plasma or meltas), don't put the libby with em. He doesn't really help them at all other than giving them a 5+ cover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Captain Sam Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 What character wouldn't be wasted with the 4MG? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysteriousmaskedmystery Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 dante? but even then, just for the right on target DS. i wouldn't run a character with them, but then again, i don't think i'd take a HG kitted like that at all. i don't know. i really don't think they need or should have a character. if you have to give them a lib, and they are going to be tank hunters, sword of sanguinius and shield are my votes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zid Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 What character wouldn't be wasted with the 4MG? None. Honestly, if you run HG that way, they should be running around solo blowing crap up and running away Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinarian Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 On one hand the examples above could be seen as a complete abuse of RAI for an HG by using them independently of the HQ choice that allows selecting an HG. :angry: But on the other hand, they are a brilliant example of using a "free" FOC unit either as CC juggernauts (TH/SS) or Duke Nuke 'Ems (4 MG or PG). :RTBBB: :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Remember he doesn't have to actually go with the Honour Guard. But yes, an Honour Guard with 4 Meltaguns is great. I quite like the Librarian with Shield and Blood Lance. However Librarian with Shield and Unleash Rage is good for making your Assault Marines turn into an elite assault unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Captain Sam Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 You mean the HG doesn't have to be with the IC? That seems completely counter-intuitive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 HG are not retinue. There is nothing saying they must be attached to the IC (or HQ - I forgot which one, and I don't have a Dex near) that enabled them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 well they not only guard the character but the company... personally if you arnt using sheild and unlease rage/sword, then id try fear to make things run... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 As said HGs are not retinues. The only marine codex with actual retinues anymore is the Black Templars. There is no reason the character must go with them, and if you want a 4 melta HG, send the Librarian to a different squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatter Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Fear and blood boil(/shield/Urage) are pretty good. Take your pick, kill the fist or scare them away... OR... DS behind their lines and use Fear to bring them closer (/to a buddy unit if shooty). Kinda like ghetto lash. 2 libbies, double your fun! Works best with SRs though as the libby(/Ldread) can disembark out of coherency of the unit, stand behind for cover save and still use fear at full strength (24") allowing shorter range weapons of the cargo unit and raven on their shoot (& assault) turns Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Captain Sam Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 That's a nice tactic! (Fear from behind) I reread the rules and (not that I doubted you guys) but you're absolutely right. I don't even think it's beardy, since it's not too crazy to think a commander might send his best guys to go deal with that pesky Monolith that's killing everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 wouldnt bother sending them afet a monolith, best a meltagun can do is glance it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222708-libby-doa-question/#findComment-2663562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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