Sejanus was the luckiest Luna Wolf

[Grandmaster Anaziel]

I think Captain Hastar Sejanus was the luckiest Luna Wolf in the Legion because he died before Horus's corruption.

He died at the peak of the Great Crusade. He never endured the hell that Loken and all other loyalists endured. His death was in a way a merciful one. Just my two cents.

[Lord Lorne Walkier]

I think Captain Hastar Sejanus was the luckiest Luna Wolf in the Legion because he died before Horus's corruption.

 

I think Horus was corrupted before he sent Hastar to his death. I think his equerry Maloghurst, was a full blown cultist at this point and survived his "crash" thanks to the help of the dark gods. The Davin lodges had been apart of the legion for a long time. When Horus teleported into the "Emperors" throne room and shot him i think, was the first sign that Loken saw darkness in him. He might have had a bit of good in him still but i think he was well on his way to the dark side at this point.

[Kalythos]

In my view he can be counted amongst the catalysts of the Heresy. Sejanus is described as the most balanced member of the Mournival, possessed a military record second only to Abaddon's and was considered to be the favoured "son" of Horus. Among all members of the Mournival he alone personified all of the Four Humours. From these traits, it would be reasonable to assume he would object to the moral decay of the Legion and its gradual slip to chaos once the warrior lodges took hold.

 

Had he been alive, perhaps his influence over the Warmaster would avert certain critical decisions or prevent the Heresy altogether. After all, Erebus himself adopted Sejanus' aspect in order to take advantage of the fondness Lupercal bore for him.

[Captain Idaho]

In my view he can be counted amongst the catalysts of the Heresy. Sejanus is described as the most balanced member of the Mournival, possessed a military record second only to Abaddon's and was considered to be the favoured "son" of Horus. Among all members of the Mournival he alone personified all of the Four Humours. From these traits, it would be reasonable to assume he would object to the moral decay of the Legion and its gradual slip to chaos once the warrior lodges took hold.

 

Had he been alive, perhaps his influence over the Warmaster would avert certain critical decisions or prevent the Heresy altogether. After all, Erebus himself adopted Sejanus' aspect in order to take advantage of the fondness Lupercal bore for him.

 

Impressive first post! I forgot about Sejanus' influence. Loken was a great leader but he could never be to Horus the influence that Sejanus was.

 

We see the vulnerability creep in when he personally teleports in to shoot the false Emperor dead. Vengeance is a dark place after all.

[Gunslinger87]

Guys I think the point of Horus Rising was to show precisely that. Horus at his peak before the corruption even began. True, the lodges were there, but even the last paragraph of HR shows that. Loken looks at the moment when Horus showed his utter loyalty with the knowledge of what was to come. That is the irony of the first book.

 

Saying that Maloghurst was a cultist and Horus was already becoming a traitor in HR would be serously diminishing his acheivements and honour.

 

Sejanus could have played a role yes, but it really does seem that were it not for Davin, Horus would have probably remained loyal. Were Sejanus in the Mournival in stead of Loken, would he have been able to convince Abaddon not to go ahead with it? Possibly.

[MagicMan]

Or Sejanus would have been killed like his Emperor's Children version.

 

I forget his name, Fulgrim sticks the anathaeme in his spine.

[Hengist Ironfang]

I think that alot of people get confused about the lodges, The lodges themselves were not chaotic they were what they said they were a place for people to go and share ideas and thoughts, the problem came when people started voicing their displeasure at the emperor and other people found they felt the same, the vast majority of Horus' followers weren't tainted at the start of the Heresy just disillusioned with the imperium and the great crusade, they believed that Horus could control the "Xenos intelligences" within the warp and they were just a means of speeding victory.

 

Ergo the lodges weren't corrupting at the point of Haastur Sejanus' death, at this point the luna wolves were pleased with the Emperors appointment of Horus as warmaster and everyone felt that victory was within reach and achievable. The doubts only really began to creep in when Horus was wounded on Davins moon.