StormchaserKnight Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Hi guys. I've been back and forth over the new Stormraven model. It wasn't until I held it in my hands that I came to my final conclusion: Stuntier than a vertically challenged dwarf. However, it's a cool unit to have in your army. So here's my WIP attempt at fixing it. Looking around the WIP section, I can see I'm not the first person to have this idea, and I'm sure I won't be the last :) C&C welcome B) ;) http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00012.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00013.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00014.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00015.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00016.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00017.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00018.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 YES! Agreed, this is the way it SHOULD be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinion Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Excellent! I'd wanted to do this myself after seeing one of the Photoshops of it, but was too worried about lengthening and messing up the front! What did you use to make it longer? Edit* NVM, looks like a valkyrie =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormchaserKnight Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Edit* NVM, looks like a valkyrie =p It is indeed a Valkyrie :lol: I should have some more pics up tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I like this version, although the wings look a little flimsy. Maybe some extra supports? Good work still! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Also, I noticed you cut the wingtip engines off? I always imagined the exhausts on the engine should rotate downwards directing thrust like an F35 Vtol engine. Perfect. I always felt, for a low ground attack craft, the under part of the engines should be armored... Perhaps just plasticard underneath the engine to extend the wings and box the engines in? I bet that'd look good. I like how you have sliding side doors from the valkyrie, but I'm not sold on how the tail and the aft fuselage mate up. Perhaps it can be managed in a more streamlined fashion? I hate to nit pick this design, but tis THE best of them all... all so close to being perfect... How can the hurricane bolters be mounted higher? Possible? I'm so inspired by this design, I'm going to do it. Do you have sectional pics of the cutting process? It would be great to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 That's really cool, really looks the part! :sweat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormchaserKnight Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Also, I noticed you cut the wingtip engines off? I always imagined the exhausts on the engine should rotate downwards directing thrust like an F35 Vtol engine. Perfect. I always felt, for a low ground attack craft, the under part of the engines should be armored... Perhaps just plasticard underneath the engine to extend the wings and box the engines in? I bet that'd look good. I like how you have sliding side doors from the valkyrie, but I'm not sold on how the tail and the aft fuselage mate up. Perhaps it can be managed in a more streamlined fashion? I hate to nit pick this design, but tis THE best of them all... all so close to being perfect... How can the hurricane bolters be mounted higher? Possible? I'm so inspired by this design, I'm going to do it. Do you have sectional pics of the cutting process? It would be great to see it. That's for the feed back man! :D The VTOL jets; I've managed to salvage the ones from the Stormraven wings, but I can't decide where they should go. I'll post some pics later on of possible positions of them That's a good point about the underside of the wings. I've got some more plasticard now, so I believe that is the next order of business. I've actually left off the Valkyrie doors. I'm waiting for some Grey Knight Land Raider doors from Forge World to turn up. I figured Astartes style doors all around would make sense ;) The tail had been glued into place but is far from done. I needed it there so I could see the overall look of the craft. It shall be plasticarded up ;) Annoyingly, the hurricane bolters can't be raised without some severe modelling work, as they fit quite snugly between the various plates and engines. Epic Design Fail. <_< Feel free to nit-pick. If I didn't want feedback, I wouldn't have posted! :lol: The cutting process is actually really easy, especially if you've glued the hurricane bolters on. The razor saw fits perfectly between the back of the hurricane bolter housing and the rear landing clamp housing. My friend wants me to convert his Stormraven in a similar way, so I'll probably post a Step-by-step when I do that ^_^ Again, cheers for the feedback :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Excellent conversion, much better than the original. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boffinboots Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 The VTOL jets; I've managed to salvage the ones from the Stormraven wings, but I can't decide where they should go. I'll post some pics later on of possible positions of them How about either sided of the tail? Would be fairly "realistic" (pleh), balancing the jets at the front and providing pitch and yaw control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxyogi Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Am liking this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Nice idea to mix Valkyrie and Stormraven plastic kit. I've use RL Redeemer in place of Valkyrie.... Can you take a picture with a SM near of him (just for the wingspan) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Millar Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Finally someone cracked it. That's as close to perfect as a SR is going get, thank you good sir for gracing the community with this. The re-angle of the wings makes all the difference, my only criticism would be the fact that the conversion requires a Valkyrie kit, making price an issue for some people, but I suppose a little plasticard work can easily achieve the same effect. Congrats on one awesome looking model, i look forward to seeing the finished result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Well, StormchaserKnight, you certainly pulled it off. I like the idea of using the Land Raider doors. Will help take away the look of the valkyrie and make it more Astartes, I agree. I like everything you've done, although dont stress where those wingtip thrusters should go, mb they shouldnt go on. hehe. Cant wait to see your step by step. You got the best looking, well, cant really call it a flying brick anymore, can we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I just received a storm raven for my birthday, really tempted to do what you have done, and I can afford a valk if I want, but think I shall pass this time, maybe make my second one like yours :cuss Excellent job, looks like a cross between a storm raven and the drop ship from Aliens. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/373540302_28c9d4fef5.jpghttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/373540223_87c75f7dfa.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormchaserKnight Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback guys! :cuss In order to reward you for such awesome feeback, I have an update! Second wing now attached! http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00026.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00028.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00029.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00035.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y240/Fireshade/DSC00034.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Pentacost Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I like this much better than the original! How would it look with a twin boomed tail and land-speeder style horisontal stabaliser? Very nice work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Man that thing rocks. Ya, like Marshal Pentacost mentioned, a land speeder type twin tail might look better in the back simply because you have the rectangular aft fuselage of the valkyrie. I'm giving that some thought myself. I can imagine the Dreadnought is laid on its back inside the aft hull and there are rails and a drop cable that enable it to be deployed out the back hatch when opened. Otherwise how do you explain aerodynamic planetary entry/reentry? It's all coming together. The only other thing I might do when I design mine, cuz yours is so close to what one should look like, is I might try and plasticard up the hole in the side fuselage where the hurrican bolters go... move the hole in the plasticard up and forward... as far as can be done without compromising the air intakes for the engines... and remount them so they can better see over the wing canards. Also... and I'll need to see how its all attached... in order to do the above, the engines may need to be moved upward a quarter to half an inch... that would also allow a better visual on the land raider side doors. I'm also thinking of swapping the rear ramp for the front ramp. The rear looks more aerodynamic... seeing as how you streamlined the bit underneath the cockpit it would all flow better aesthetically. Brilliant work so far. Cant wait to see the rest... Edit: How can you argue it's NOT better than the inspiration for GW's Storm Raven? YES, I found the ORIGINAL inspired STC design. http://www.spencer1984.com/hold/thunderhawk2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearlay Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Ive Been working on my Stormravens also, Input welcome ... http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd461/40KJeff/BAWork2009.jpg http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd461/40KJeff/BAWork2007.jpg http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd461/40KJeff/BAWork2012.jpg I havent rounded the Wing Edges or Added any Etched Detail to them, Still Desiding if i like the wing this way, the Wing is Notched in to the top and Removable for transport Etc. I have also been thinking about Cutting the Top Turrect location and Lowering it so that a Razorback weapon would sink down and Barrels just sit over Hull top Height, also Still nto fan of the Dread not transport Idea in the back, they use a simple cable, I added magnet there but its Ugly I removed allt he Thrusters they have for lift off, since this is Year 40K and even the fluff tells of anti gravity Engines. I didnt like the V shaped rear wing so I made them strait across also Lowering its total Height for transport, I like the Rhino type of Idea towards rear you did, added transport capasity Looks, way it is now they must sit on each others laps lol, I relocated Hurricane bolters forward on magnets so as tyo not cover door also. Ideas & Comments welcome 8) thxs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Oi Pearlay you can't just waddle into someone else's thread and start banging up your own work! Make your own thread. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Lol, mb he thought this was the defacto thread for proper stormbricks??? Edit, but yeah, everyone has their own thread on this. Feel free to fire one up, too many storm ravens on this runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearlay Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I like some of his Ideas, Specially the way he made it longer, where it looks liek it could actuall carry a few marines, PS I have a thread for my Raven also though... http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82774 Anyway, all us BA players just want a Nice looking Raven and I think we should all put our ideas together see what each other has to offer, Ive already seen some Im planing for the next Raven I have sitting in box waiting on its Cut up date, this first one is more a test Chop. LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Very cool. As noted in another Storm Raven stretching thread, this is something I'd like to try at some point. But after seeing them in play on the table, I think I understand GW's reasoning for making them as stubby as they did. My friend and I are making Storm Ravens right now, and he fielded two on the table last Saturday, and I can definitely say that he wouldn't have been able to land his Terminators where he did if his Storm Raven had been any longer. On an open table I wouldn't think twice about it, but we often end up playing in semi-urban areas, and minimizing his landing zones is something I'm going to be keeping in mind in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Any chance you plan to put up a tutorial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy-xc Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Any chance you plan to put up a tutorial? Yeah, we need a Dummies Guide to this proper Stormraven, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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