Dam13n Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Been a long time since I posted up anything. As there happens to be a Badab War themed painting competition at my local GW and had these sitting about... http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/MatthewDaunt/Lamenters01.jpg Still have a way to go and need to be finished by friday... So far: Undercoat - Army Painter Fur Brown Spray Yellow: - Bubonic Brown basecoat - Layer with Desert Yellow - Layer with Kommando Khaki - All over wash with Gryphonne Sepia - Shading wash with Devlan Mud - Touch up layering with Desert Yellow - Edge Highlight with Kommando Khaki (Still have to battle damage with Graveyard Earth then Dark Flesh, underline with Kommando Khaki and sharp edge highlight with Skull White) White: - Equal Mix of Astonomican Grey and Dheneb Stone basecoat - Layer with above 2:1 White - Layer with above 1:1 White - All over wash with Charadon Granite (Thinned loads) - Shading wash with Devlan Mud - Touch up layering with the 1:1 mix - Edge Highlight with Skull White (Still have to battle damage with Kommando Khaki and Graveyard Earth, underline with Skull White) Small update: http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/MatthewDaunt/Lamenters02.jpg Just blacked out the soft armour, weapons and most details, have left the chest eagles and shoulder markings as these will be either red or bone (haven't decided yet) and in the case of the shoulders I need to do the check detailing before I'll worry about them... Update 22/02/2011: http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/MatthewDaunt/Lamenters03.jpg All areas that will be metal have been basecoated with Charadon Granite, some of the parchment and robe areas basecoated with Calthan Brown, the areas that will (may) end up red have been based with Mecharite Red. Plus the checks are almost done, just have some clean up work to do as well a some tiny highlights of Fortress Grey to the black checks. Update 24/02/2011: http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/MatthewDaunt/Lamenters04.jpg http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/MatthewDaunt/Lamenters05.jpg http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/MatthewDaunt/Lamenters06.jpg Big update this time, done all the metal NMM work and the parchment, bone and pale cloth. Based the red areas. Once the red is done I have to do the black areas then the gold NMM and the lenses and then finally the battle damage... phew... at least they're mostly small areas. Update 27/02/2011: http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/MatthewDaunt/Lamenters07.jpg The finished models (albeit minus bases for the moment) on display in my local GW (Poole, UK)... Comments welcome (I'll need all the inspiration to get these done that I can get...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Why a brown basecoat..? Lately I've been reading that white is the way to go.. And I say this as a member of the Great Uninformed <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2665989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 I'd like to spout a fantastic reason about colour theory or something... Honestly, I bought the spray for some Skaven and had it lying around, I just thought it would be a nicer colour to work from, in my experience white spray has an awful tendency to go chalky and black spray was a no-no for obvious reasons. As things have gone so far, it is really nice to paint over, gives a nice result too (although the crappy iPhone camera doesn't do it any justice whatsoever). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2665994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I'd like to spout a fantastic reason about colour theory or something... Spout away, I'll know no better; I can just about basecoat with a spray can... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2666000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly_bear Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 That's a nice yellow.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2666006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 In addition to the update in post 1: Capt Juan - I was kidding, I don't have any special reason... besides, the brown is a spray can... Dorn's Fist - Thanks muchly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2667046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direach Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I would go with red for the chest eagles, it will give some brilliant punch to the miniatures (unless you have large areas of red already planned for other parts). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2667065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Very nice :tu: I'd like to see some clear pics of these when they are finished and for what it's worth I vote bone same as the rank and file marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2668180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Well I have tried basing the chest eagles with red... not convinced, looks too much like the imperial fists to me... I'm thinking Bone will work better to be honest. Especially as all the blood drops will be red. Need to try and keep the palette bright but I think the vivid colours (like red) should be spot colours only to stop them looking like an explosion in a paint factory. Of course we'll see how things play out... PJ1933 - cheers... More to come tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2668261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNONE Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Arn't the Lamenters' chest eagles purple? Depends on personal preference, but it's a bright colour and I seem to remember it being part of the "official" scheme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2668809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Update in post 1. I went for Bone for the chest eagles just like in Codex: BA, as much as that grates with my artistic temperament, it does work... MNONE: I'm not sure where the purple came from, never seen them with purple chest eagles, plus with my scheme they would look too garish... A bit of brightness looks good, too much and it can ruin a model... Just have to mission it tomorrow evening after work and maybe I'll have them done for saturday... (crosses fingers) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2670652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugar-free Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 ya bone works. i have never seen the purple either. i was so going to do these guys. i instead did the fire lords, but loving yours i think you did the colors perfect. good job and can't wait to see more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2670670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 dude these guys look freaking great! ive always loved the lamenters chapter story and looks. one thing i would love to see tho is more checkered pattern on the fists :) just cuz you did the ones on the shoulders so well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2670849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Sugar-free: Thanks, my feelings exactly. They do stand out but don't clutter the model, which is exactly what I wanted given the huge amount of detail on these models. Debauchery101: Thank you, I did wonder about putting something on the fists, not necessarily more checks, but in the end I'm glad I didn't as, again, I feel it would have overly cluttered the models. If I were doing normal terminators without all the extra details then yes, extra checks would be a pretty good idea. Right, 8 hours of work to put up with then time to get these done... Laterz... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I'm loving the models so far! Just wondering though, on the white does it come out naturally dirty with the brown washes? I'm thinking of using your recipe for white work I will have to be doing. Also could you explain what you mean by doing a shading wash with the Devlin Mud? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamrodMC Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I love Space Hulk painting logs, and out of all the ones I've browsed before, this is my favourite one ever. Can't wait to see the finished products, and I hope you win your painting comp! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Slyen: Shading wash = wash into the shadows/recesses only. The dirtiness in the white is helped by the washes, but also the fact that pure white is only used as the edge highlight. The checked areas actually recieved another charadon granite wash after the checks were done but before highlighting to smooth out the inevitable corrections I had to make along the way. RamrodMC: Thanks, Hopefully I'll get them finished tonight... Will probably post finished pics here (rather than the HoH) tomorrow so I can get good natural light. Laterz... Edit: sodding work computers... accidentally published this post 5 times. [to Mods: I can't seem to delete the duplicates (now changed to "Oops") and would be appreciative if you could prune them for me, thank you.] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Oops... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dam13n Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Oops... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Oops... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Very impressive and I love your yellow. Perhaps another consideration for starting with a brown base (for yellow) is that it provides a softer base for the yellow to lie on. I don't know if this was your intent, but I do prefer softer, less contrast, not quite as bright schemes as I feel they look less toy-like. I think you've done an excellent job of capturing this feel. Whether you really know what you're doing or just following your instincts, do keep on your current path. You're doing a marvelous job. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2671426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 Well, first off entered and won the competition. However the models are now on display, I'll try and get some good pics tomorrow. Honda: I like to think I know what I'm doing, I thought the brown would work for the reasons you said. I'm pleased with the yellow given the lack of any actual yellow. Laterz... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2672298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Apologies, I didn't want to infer that you didn't know what you're doing, you obviously do. I sort of meant to infer, some people like to, or have to, figure it out as they go, some people know what they want and make it happen. I found myself in the former position for my army, as I knew how I wanted it to look, I just didn't know how I was going to get there. Eventually I figured it out and everything was golden. But it was an exercise in discovery. I believe that you do know how to get where you want to go and how to get there...and quite marvelously at that. Your talents are obvious. Also congrats on the win! Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2672326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam13n Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 I managed to get the pics... Honda: I find that I know what I want to achieve and I'm generally willing to have a go with something new and see how it works out... The brown undercoat was like this, I understood the theory and just needed to see if it worked in practice and it did... Always more fun to experiment than follow a guide. Laterz... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/222975-lamenters-space-hulk-terminator-squad/#findComment-2673013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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