Walter Payton Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Salve Astartem! I recently had the jolly idea of making a chapter themed around each of the three main powers fighting the Western Front of WWI. I am currently writing the first of the three, which will be based around the German Field Army. I will write the French and British after that However, I am kind of stuck for names. The current project has a placeholder name: the Steel Guards. Any ideas? Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Who are you? You're vaguely familiar, from a forgotten age... <_< Welcome back to the table Alecto. Before I make any suggestions, obviously I know where you are drawing from, but what do you see as the overriding themes or the ones you wish to draw on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direach Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 When I think 'German army' I think 'offense'; 'Steel Guards' sounds defensive. Maybe Steel Tigers, or Steel Dragons instead? Or Steel Conquerors (though I think Iron Conquerors sounds harder). 'British army' makes me think of pride, nobility, and tradition. Maybe Lions of Albion for them? 'French army' makes me think of pomp, pageantry, and spectacle... but no names come to mind just now. Nothing cool enough for Astartes, at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 When I think 'German army' I think 'offense'; 'Steel Guards' sounds defensive. Maybe Steel Tigers, or Steel Dragons instead? Or Steel Conquerors (though I think Iron Conquerors sounds harder). I agree with this point - Guard is a defensive name that would suit the French force or the British one. Panther and Tiger work quite well, with also nodding towards the tanks of the same name. I would say the Iron Tigers sounds pretty flashy. Guard would work well for the French chapter, being on the defensive front. Maybe link it to a national icon (the fleurs-de-lis, the eagle, etc) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Considering the prevalence of the term 'Guards' in British groups, which means an elite group of soldiers. As Marines are the elites of the Imperium, I think that might be a good part of the name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ragnil Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 When I think 'German army' I think 'offense'; 'Steel Guards' sounds defensive. Maybe Steel Tigers, or Steel Dragons instead? Or Steel Conquerors (though I think Iron Conquerors sounds harder). I agree with this point - Guard is a defensive name that would suit the French force or the British one. Panther and Tiger work quite well, with also nodding towards the tanks of the same name. I would say the Iron Tigers sounds pretty flashy. Guard would work well for the French chapter, being on the defensive front. Maybe link it to a national icon (the fleurs-de-lis, the eagle, etc) Tacking on from what other have said, Imperial Panthers might work well for the German-themed army, seeing how the one of the names for the German Army during WWI was the Imperial German Army, despite obvious references to the 'Imperium' as well. As for the British, maybe something like the Astral Lions? Because of the Lion on the British crest, and the astral relating to naval power, which the British were known for, but in this case stellar naval power (bit of a stretch, I know). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack Master Kael Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 If you are going to make the german army full of tanks I think steel/iron panthers/tigers would be a good choice for the name as it would connect to the tanks that the germans were known for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 For the Germans, I think Iron/Steel Korps could work. Of course, always a risk GW might decode to make a German army themed Imp Guard regiment with appropriated German nomenclature that might compromise that name. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The obvious name for a WWI German themed chapter is the Iron Eagles. Apothete will just have to lump it. Alternately, the Iron Templars would work well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Iron Fists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The obvious name for a WWI German themed chapter is the Iron Eagles. Apothete will just have to lump it. Alternately, the Iron Templars would work well. Iron Eagles is pretty damn apt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2668818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodWulf Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 "For the Germans, I think Iron/Steel Korps could work. Of course, always a risk GW might decode to make a German army themed Imp Guard regiment with appropriated German nomenclature that might compromise that name." You mean like the Steel Legion? For the "Germans" you could play up on the word Teutonic. Knights Teuton or something like that. I think the names of the tanks and such are helpful but that was more of a WWII thing rather than WWI. One of the German Military names I really love is Kriegsmarine (Wiki just told me this means 'War Navy') I think I spelled that right. Already has 'marine" built in the name like the Ultras and sounds very germanic I think. "England" could be Lionheart Chapter "France" could be Aquilas Lux a play on Eagles and Light just my random thoughts... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2669099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 You mean like the Steel Legion? Nah, the Death Korps of Krieg, complete with their WWI gas masks. Which would be my major reservation with the name Kreigsmarine - in universe there's already a Krieg. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2669445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ragnil Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I was also thinking for the British theme - perhaps the "Lions of Albion"? Being that Albion was the name used by the Greeks and Romans for England during that time period... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2669516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Payton Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 Thanks for the responses guys! @Juan Juarez The overriding themes will be as follows, Germans: Solidity, offense, logistics, arrogance French: Sacrifice, passion, certainty, pride, fury British: Pragmatism, sang-froid, space-power, pride, Imperialism I like the Steel Panthers suggestion, as well as the Steel Guards ideas . "Kaiserliche", the German word for Imperial, also has potential. The French could perhaps have some Napoleonic influence, for the eagles etc. I will think about the British; Albion seems nice, but a tad over theming it seems. I will muse upon it further. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2669522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 If you are going to make the german army full of tanks I think steel/iron panthers/tigers would be a good choice for the name as it would connect to the tanks that the germans were known for. Apart from the fact that the OOP is basing his armies from The Great War and The British invented The Tank. The Germans were famous for their WWII Tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2669618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack Master Kael Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 If you are going to make the german army full of tanks I think steel/iron panthers/tigers would be a good choice for the name as it would connect to the tanks that the germans were known for. Apart from the fact that the OOP is basing his armies from The Great War and The British invented The Tank. The Germans were famous for their WWII Tanks. Ah yes true, my mistake I thought it said WWII in the OP. I guess that is what I get for skimming and not paying full attention. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2669767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I think of lot of us accidently read "WWII", although it doesn't matter masively as you can get away with a little bit of mistheming for a name. Just gone back a removed some comments about different nations, please, we are all lovers friends here :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thanks for the responses guys! @Juan Juarez The overriding themes will be as follows, Germans: Solidity, offense, logistics, arrogance French: Sacrifice, passion, certainty, pride, fury British: Pragmatism, sang-froid, space-power, pride, Imperialism I like the Steel Panthers suggestion, as well as the Steel Guards ideas . "Kaiserliche", the German word for Imperial, also has potential. The French could perhaps have some Napoleonic influence, for the eagles etc. I will think about the British; Albion seems nice, but a tad over theming it seems. I will muse upon it further. Germans: The "Stone _____" - Stone has a sense of weight and solidity, plus you can use a complimentary second name to get the Germanic feel. French: I'm a little stumped here because of a reason that Ferrata will beat me for expressing :lol: Seems you have very monastic - ? - themes in mind, emphasising the warrior-monk nature of the Astartes so something along the lines of "Order of ____" (sadly, Eagle Warriors and Doom Eagles are taken :P) English: "Astral ____" - That naval theme. "Star Lions" - Again, naval theme with the heraldic lion reference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I really like the whole Teutonic thing. It just SOUNDS awesome. Plus it's pretty German. the Teutonic Eagles, the Iron Teutons, Death Teutonic, Legion Teutonic? The French, the Praetors of Zeal, the Zealous Praetors. I dunno. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Teutonic is a terrible, terrible idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Ouchie. And why is that, pray tell? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Its not abstract enough. It would be like saying Russian Tigers or Grecian Laterns. Its a group of people/race/region etc tied to Germany. It needs to be more obscure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Ahh it's not that obvious. First thing that popped into my head when I heard Teutonic was the Knights Teutonic, the German military order that went around killing and "Christianizing" Latvians and Lithuanians way back in the day, not the ancient Teutons. So it'd be more like saying the Cossack Tigers (even though Cossacks were more Ukrainian than Russian I know) or the Hoplite Laterns. Edit: Course, it's all personal, but I wouldn't say the Teutonic thing is a "terrible, terrible idea" even if it's not obscure enough :P like the Space Bee-Kittens is a terrible, terrible idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Ahh it's not that obvious. First thing that popped into my head when I heard Teutonic was the Knights Teutonic, the German military order that went around killing and "Christianizing" Latvians and Lithuanians way back in the day, not the ancient Teutons. So it'd be more like saying the Cossack Tigers (even though Cossacks were more Ukrainian than Russian I know) or the Hoplite Laterns. Edit: Course, it's all personal, but I wouldn't say the Teutonic thing is a "terrible, terrible idea" even if it's not obscure enough :P like the Space Bee-Kittens is a terrible, terrible idea. It's about context.. We're all nerds here, we are pretty much all going to know "Teutonic", so it does in essence become "obvious". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223157-names-names-names/#findComment-2670566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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