Wicced Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 satisfied Revell user for years :P paintingwise you're off with a lot of good advice i see ;) one thing to the building process i can't recommend enough is cleaning mold lines. some examples on your newer models: the lines running over the heads from ear to ear, or the line on the right inside of the powerfist, it actually looks like some piece of sprue still sticks there. these little buggers run pretty much along the whole model. head, arms, legs etc. and really mess up the painting. carefully scrape them off with your hobby knife and when you look back at your models in some time, you'll be thankful you did it ;) your marines look promising though, if you take some time and maybe just half of the advice in this thread, they'll turn out awesome B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 BTW: shouldnt Thirst be First? unless you want something to drink that is and getting so thirsty was a challenge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muller Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Loctite is a great superglue that is excellent to use even on plastic models. I'd NEVER use anything else. GWs plastic and metal glues are complete *insert very ugly/bad words here*! Haven't used any other glue than Loctite Superattack for over 15 years now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revenant Autumn Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I also reccomend Loctite, specifically I use the supercontrol gel. Having it as a gel is great, as you don't get liquid superglue all over the place. The application end doesn't become a horror quite like other superglue I have used, and the squeeze applicators work well at getting the exact right amount. Plus you can use it as a variant of plasma cannon when it runs out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 PVA glue? Is that what the globbidly gloop on this guy's hand is? I was wondering you see.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted March 2, 2011 Author Share Posted March 2, 2011 Nobody likes PVA. B) So... Loctite, or Revell. Hmmm... I'll look at ordering both of those. I may stop generating marines altogether, except the ones already spray painted... Muller and Wicced - these pictures are before I scraped the mould lines off. Oops :) I do plan on following the advice given here... I am applying a different red for the Red Lords, a Mechrite Red (yes, I did make sure it was well mixed before I used it...) base with successive layers of Baal Red. I'll post pictures of it when I get the chance. Spacefrisian - What are you talking about? Goose - You are correct, un fortunately, and it has been since removed. Thanks for all the support and advice, I'm hoping to post pictures soon to show that I am implementing it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamrodMC Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Careful with Revell, though. It's an excellent tool, but it's a plastic cement, not a glue per se. It works by slightly melting the plastic at the contact points so they can essentially be "welded" together. To echo atin's advice, wait for a while for the cement to dry, cause if you get it all over the model it's gonna eat all the details. If done right, though, the bond is way better than simple super glue. Super glue is easier because it's just sticking two things together, but the bond isn't as strong. However, this is what I tend to use for my stuff. Unless it's a really important part that I want super well-anchored, then I use a polycement like Revell's. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muller Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Nobody likes PVA to be used as an anchor between two plastic or metal parts on a model no, but used for slime, blood (mixed with vallejo's red and some black makes for excellent gore; see my blog in the signature for examples), used for basing models, etc. it's great. You wouldn't build a house with 16 inch bolts used on bridges, and you wouldnt build a bridge with normal wooden nails, but both are excellent when used for what they're created for :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I mainly use Loctite. Works better than even the plastic glues that GW advertises. Basicly as was said, thin the paints and clean up the mold lines. As for your combi-melta I have to wonder though, why did you green stuff the two weapons together rather than doing a conversion? I would think it would be easier and cleaner looking to cut the pieces off of the melta gun and add them on to the bolter then gap fill with green stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2676946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 Alright. So I kinda lied... it wasn't quite an experiment. I had actually tried out the red I was using before... But these were on much more detailed miniatures and I couldn't really get a feel for how they would look on a wider 'canvas'. On a Khorne Berzerker, the only finished model with the red method finished. Here's a sorceror - this was taken about ten minutes ago, and shows a marine with a basecoat of Mechrite Red, which is how I start out... And here's the Red Lord himself. He's been given a few washes of Baal Red, and I'm hoping it's fairly decent... ... though I am, of course, looking for your feedback before using it on the rest of the Red Lords already prepared. Oh ,and something of an update for the Orphans, even though I did this almost right after my last picture update... Right before the glue tips... The back pack made for the Orphan of Doom sergeant and the sergeant himself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2677803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Updates? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2690727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 Updates? Do come eventually... Today is a good day to be a White Hand. You are either being painted... Are being built.... Are being used to demonstrate how I thinned the paint.... Or are being stripped of paint :D Today is an iffy day to be an Orphan of Doom. You could be one of these guys... (back view) ... But if you aren't, you're either the sergeant or you don't exist yet :( Today is a good day to be a Red Lord. Chances are that you are almost completely finished.* *Not pictured is the sergeant, because, well, I forgot to take a picture of him. The legs are either really good or really bad, I've had to scrape off the effect of the Ogryn Flesh wash veeerrryyy gently for a second try with half of them. The last painted one is an example of why I need new glue - unfortunately, it won't come in time if I want to finish the LPC. Also not pictured is two marines enjoying a Simple Green bath. Today is a bad day to be a Blazing Son. I spray painted the cpatain, which was a hasty decision and I deeply regret. He'll probably end up having minor modifications added that will be unbasecoated when I start applying paint, sadly. Please, excuse my sloppy painting. This is only my second attempt at a free-hand, and I'm not satisfied with it either, there is still basic outline work to be done, mostly at the bottom. I have tried a little sculpting with the Thing, resulting in plates, of a sort - - which will probably get some sort of spikes or pointy bitz. Kind of like a defiler. Just... not as well done. EDIT: forgot a comment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2698391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I see you mutilated a Super Battle droid, if I am not mistaken, then GOOD! If you are using GW paints, I know mixing in the lightest bit of fortress grey with skull white will really help. You get the white color with a better consistency. I went through two dilemmas for painting white and that saved me each time. I am debating myself with either using a blue or black wash for crevasses though. As for yellow, paint the desired part grey and go over it with either tausept ochre foundation or iyanden darksun. Then give a light wash of devlan mud. Grey paint has been a savior for my SoM and IF. Definitely experiment with this to try and get a desired color. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2698409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Oh, by the excrement of Grandfather Nurgle why is there a space marine with a lego axe!?!?!?!? Heresy!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2698446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 You're kidding aren't you? Everyday is a great day to be a White Hand :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2698691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 You might wanna reconsider that yellow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2698703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 What is this yellow everyone is talking about? The legs and chest peices are orange-brown... Noctus - Because, as you can see, I choose not to limit myself to purely GW products... ;) Hushrong - Hey, thanks for checking my stuff out :D Your eyes are good, that is indeed a super battle droid. The marine had no backpack (because he had the back from the vehicle kit). I was looking for something appropiate to use for it, when I saw a one armed plastic super battle droid... The rest is evidenced... I actually tend to use Valejo paints as well as Citadel paints. Do you have any experience with them? If you do, my white is simply a thinned down Pale Flesh. I'll look into mixing Stonewall Grey with the Pale Flesh, thanks to your tip :) On GW paints, I did use Mechrite Red with several washes of Baal Red for the Red Lords. Have any tips for making that better? Ecritter - Unless they realised what they were ;) But in my... workplace?... it is indeed usually good to be a White Hand ;) I'm thinking the White Hands and Red Lords being stripped of paint are almost done, as well as some of my models which are true veterans... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2699381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hushrong - Hey, thanks for checking my stuff out :P Your eyes are good, that is indeed a super battle droid. The marine had no backpack (because he had the back from the vehicle kit). I was looking for something appropiate to use for it, when I saw a one armed plastic super battle droid... The rest is evidenced... I actually tend to use Valejo paints as well as Citadel paints. Do you have any experience with them? If you do, my white is simply a thinned down Pale Flesh. I'll look into mixing Stonewall Grey with the Pale Flesh, thanks to your tip :devil: On GW paints, I did use Mechrite Red with several washes of Baal Red for the Red Lords. Have any tips for making that better? I was able to spot the droid because I had a Star Wars Bug a few weeks back and wanted to play their minis game. :ermm: As for Vallejo paints, I have yet to try them. So definitely make a little mix of their paints and test it on a small base before using it on a mini since I am unfamiliar with them. Another thing I forgot to mention, after basecoating my minis, I go over the part I want white with grey and give it a light wash of badab black. I saw this in a tut and I keep doing it, plus it helps when you paint in a quartered patern:). Then go over that with the mix. Should take 2-3 coats for good coverage. This is a lot better than super watered down white and applying 10 to 12 coats. *i can message you pics to compare or you can click my SoM Termie link and look at the results (it also goes from applying several coats an how it came out chunky for me then how I used the mix for much better results). As for red, I am still experimenting on a good shade for BA. I have tried the smallest amount of chaos black with blood red (and i stress smallest amount!) but it has a vermillion color and dark. I want to go for a crimson color and I want to try dark flesh with blood red that was shown on GW's site a few weeks back. I do not know how you want their red to come out but I hope that gives ideas. Hope this helps you out Dark Apostle Thirst! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2699555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Today is almost a day of victory for the White Hands. The five marines which came out of the box are all complete - here's a group shot of the four marines assembled... And of the sergeant - The other five marines are finally finished being cleaned of paint and now have various degrees of painting done. For the Red Lords, today is a day of victory! Here is a picture of the completed sergeant, the idea being that he is sweeping back his enemies. I wanted to give an example of the fact I try and put character into each and every one of my models. This one is not quite the ideal of the Red Lords, waving civilians past, handling an evacuation or somesuch. I tried to capture this with his hand and how it's positioned. Today is a good day to be an Orphan of Doom. You are more likely to exist than ever before. And that's all the updates for today. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2705380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 As for Vallejo paints, I have yet to try them. So definitely make a little mix of their paints and test it on a small base before using it on a mini since I am unfamiliar with them. Another thing I forgot to mention, after basecoating my minis, I go over the part I want white with grey and give it a light wash of badab black. I saw this in a tut and I keep doing it, plus it helps when you paint in a quartered patern:). Then go over that with the mix. Should take 2-3 coats for good coverage. This is a lot better than super watered down white and applying 10 to 12 coats. *i can message you pics to compare or you can click my SoM Termie link and look at the results (it also goes from applying several coats an how it came out chunky for me then how I used the mix for much better results). As for red, I am still experimenting on a good shade for BA. I have tried the smallest amount of chaos black with blood red (and i stress smallest amount!) but it has a vermillion color and dark. I want to go for a crimson color and I want to try dark flesh with blood red that was shown on GW's site a few weeks back. I do not know how you want their red to come out but I hope that gives ideas. Hope this helps you out Dark Apostle Thirst! I only have black spray paint. I'm planning on getting some black paint, but that'll be after this project, sadly. Speaking of which, seeing as the Red Lords are now finished, I'm going to try the white and grey mix later today. Thanks for all the help, my friend :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2705392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecritter Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 The White Hand are well represented. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223194-dark-apostle-thirsts-challenge/page/2/#findComment-2705393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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