2000AD Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 First up I think Ahriman was a top bloke BUT...... I cant help but feel he was incredibly naive with his 'Rubric of Ahriman'. Having seen the failure of Magnus to fully control the warp and the absolute chaos surrounding TTS, why oh why did he think he could do something about it? He seemed to genuinely believe he had found a sorcerous way of achieving his aims...... the absolute and total irony was that right at the end he states quite emphatically that "He wouldnt make the same mistake as Magnus"!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 At least Ahriman had the balls to actually put an end to the flesh change, no matter how drastic. Magnus couldn't and made a pact with a power far more powerful than he was, and it tricked him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2669486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I am pretty sure i would go with arrogant before naive. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2669506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Tezdal Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 ...but it worked, sure it turned most of the legion into ash cans, but it made them stable, instead of gibbering Chaos Spawn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2669540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I would say it worked better than Magnus's attempts. At least some Thousand Sons retained their minds and bodies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2669623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Bear in mind that Ahriman was also working on a very strict timetable. The Rubric was what seemed to give the "mostest in the leastest" amount of time. He didn't have hundreds of years to figure out every nuance. Arrogance, yes, but desperation was fueling that fire too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2669692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razhbad Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Remember that Arihman was not upset with the results. He was pleased that it worked. There might be times when Arihman wonders if he made the right decision but all he has to do is take his helmet off and smile at the results. I dont think he overly cares that not all his brothers are organic creatures any more. He was more arrogant then naive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2669933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billuriye Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't think he's arrogant or naive. He knows about Tzeentch but he just wanted to save his legion. What's naive is his venture to understand Chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2670053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Just a quick question to throw in here: Do you guys think Ahriman in the 41st millennium is at all like how he was in A Thousand Sons? He seemed like a generally nice guy in that book who just worked with the hand he was dealt. He even seemed appalled at some of the actions his primarch had take. The way he is described now he seems more like your run of the mill evil sorcerer, but do you think maybe he is still just a nice guy working with what he was dealt, albeit obsessed with gaining all knowledge, perhaps as a direct result of the lack of knowledge that led to the Son's current state. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2670810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee265 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I think 10 millenia of being hunted as a traitor, undoubtedly veiwed by some of his brothers as a traitor to them after the spell, general corruption that occures working with the knowledge he had then, he is probably very into his own motives and not a very plesent guy anymore. At one time maybe he was really awsome from a loyalist point of view maybe even nice that was certainly millenia ago. So in short no he has had 10 thousand years to change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2670836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000AD Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 I personally think that Ahriman has a lot of bitterness towards Magnus..... I think he considers Magnus supremely arrogant but understands that he was trying to do the best for the legion. What truly rankles him though I think is how he believes Magnus deserted the 1000 sons in the battle against the wolves when if hadnt sent half the fleet away, allowed the wolves to land uncontested and not joined in (even then half heartedly) till the end..... the wolves surely wouldve been smashed to smitherines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223252-ahriman-naive/#findComment-2671131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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