Kozemp Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, I wasn't able to find anything. Here's my situation: I have a Chaos Aspiring Champion whose statline reads A2. He has a power fist on one hand and a chainsword in the other. Can someone please just tell me, simply, how many attacks does he have, and when do they happen? Again, my apologies is this is a blindingly obvious thing, but I've been reading p. 42 in the rulebook for the better part of half an hour and near as I can figure those last few paragraphs are so contradictory they will open up a hole to the Warp if I look at them much longer... Thanks to all. (And blood for the blood god.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Black Shadow Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Is that a valid weapons loadout? Seems odd. Anyway, if it is, I would imagine that you can choose to have either 2 attacks at the model's strength/initiative (using chainsword), or 2 attacks at double the model's strength, at initiative 1 (using power fist). You do not get additional attacks from a second CCW if you have a powerfist, unless you have a second power fist paired with it. You would have to declare which weapon you are using before making any rolls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 He has 2 attacks or 3 on the charge. There are a selection of weapons that do not get the bonus attack for 2 close combat weapons unless they are paired (powerfist, thunder hammer, lightining claw to name a few). So if you have a model with 2 attacks base, and give them a power fist, they will have 2 attacks, unless they have charged (+1 attack for charging). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 There is no reason to give a model a chainsword and a powerfist. With this armament you get 2 attacks with the powerfists rules. Might as well take a pistol so you can shoot instead of the fist. Most of the time, if you have 2 weapons, you get your base attacks +1 with one of the 2. If you have a special CCW (power weapon or the like) all the attacks use the rules of that weapon. The exceptions are lightning claws, fists, thunder hammers which can only get +1 attack from a second of the same weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozemp Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Excellent. Those are exactly the answers I needed, thanks. And one more thing... There is no reason to give a model a chainsword and a powerfist. Sure there is: Blood for the Blood God! The model still has a bolt pistol attached to his belt for shooting. I just went with the fist/sword combo because it looks nasty and Khornate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozemp Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Actually, I do have a followup question Most of the time, if you have 2 weapons, you get your base attacks +1 with one of the 2. So my regular CSM, which are statline A1 but carry chainswords and bolt pistols, would actually have 2 attacks/3 on the charge? Thanks again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Excellent. Those are exactly the answers I needed, thanks. And one more thing... There is no reason to give a model a chainsword and a powerfist. Sure there is: Blood for the Blood God! The model still has a bolt pistol attached to his belt for shooting. I just went with the fist/sword combo because it looks nasty and Khornate. I do this same thing. I have an assault squad where every member dual-wields chainswords. Every member also has a holstered bolt pistol. Since the additional CCW has no game-effect whatsoever, they're just treated as if they're bolt pistol/chainsword guys. I've never had anybody complain about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozemp Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 I do this same thing. I have an assault squad where every member dual-wields chainswords. Every member also has a holstered bolt pistol. Since the additional CCW has no game-effect whatsoever, they're just treated as if they're bolt pistol/chainsword guys. I've never had anybody complain about it. Thank you. I'm going to go buy extra chainaxes and now all my berserkers will dual-wield. What a great idea! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Actually, I do have a followup question Most of the time, if you have 2 weapons, you get your base attacks +1 with one of the 2. So my regular CSM, which are statline A1 but carry chainswords and bolt pistols, would actually have 2 attacks/3 on the charge? Thanks again. Yup, + the pistol shots in the shooting phase (which you may not want to take sometimes, depending on the opponent and their numbers/placement). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosis Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 lol. "Sure there is! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" Barbarian. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2671735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 lol. "Sure there is! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!" Heretic. :) Fixed. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223412-newb-questions-multiple-ccw-and-extra-attacks/#findComment-2672074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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