Ravenwing question

[madocyw]

Howdy all,

 

Trying to figure out how many bikes there are in the Ravenwing.

 

Assuming 100 marines, not counting HQ, and a similar make up as a regular battle company, insofar as there are 60 marines in the line squads (in this case, the attack squads), and 40 in support.

Since a full complement attack squad has 6 bikes, an attack bike, and a landspeeder, does this mean that in a full complement setup there are only 36 bikes total? The remaining marines would be the 24 between the 6 attack bikes and the 6 landspeeders, with the remaining 40 marines piloting and gunning 20 land speeders?

[HJL]

well, a full ravenwing biker squad has 10 men, 6 on bikes, 2 on the attack bike and 2 in the speeder. a full sized speeder squad has 10 as well, in 5 speeders. in all likelihood they will have 100 just as other companies.

 

i would say that they would have enough bikes for everyone and then some extras. so perhaps 80 bikes and 20 attack bikes and then a further 20 to 30 speeders.

[ValourousHeart]

According to the 2nd edition Angels of Death codex, every member of Ravenwing is expertly trained as a gunner, pilot and rider. As such any member can be used as is most needed for the current mission. Back then we could field them as 100 bikes, 50 attack bikes or 50 land speeders.

 

Our current codex has more structure to the formation. And as such 50 attack bikes is no longer an option. But 10 bike squadrons or 10 speeder squadrons still are. And either would be used depending on tactical requirements of the mission.

 

There are plenty of environments where speeders would not be advantageous. A cavern network or within a hive city... or other places without much height clearance. But there are also places where bikes would not be the best option either. A water world or a planet like Mustifar from Star Wars episode 3.

 

With all that being said, my plain is to build my RW to match the Apocalypse Space Marine Battle Company. So that would be 6 Attack Squadrons, and 4 Support Squadrons. 2 of the Support Squadrons will be armed for anti-infantry (replacing the assault squads), and 2 will be armed for anti-armor (replacing the dev squads).

[madocyw]

With all that being said, my plain is to build my RW to match the Apocalypse Space Marine Battle Company. So that would be 6 Attack Squadrons, and 4 Support Squadrons. 2 of the Support Squadrons will be armed for anti-infantry (replacing the assault squads), and 2 will be armed for anti-armor (replacing the dev squads).

 

That's my plan. Currently sitting on enough parts for 3 complete attack squads

[Isiah]

Our current codex has more structure to the formation. And as such 50 attack bikes is no longer an option. But 10 bike squadrons or 10 speeder squadrons still are. And either would be used depending on tactical requirements of the mission.

 

Just as an adjunct to this. In theory one could field 20 3-man bike squadrons (60 marines) plus 20 attached Attack bikes (40 marines). So 20 ABs is as many as we can squeeze out.

 

The reality is as:

 

"Each member of the Ravenwing is an expert biker, a masterful Land Speeder pilot and a skilled gunner, and can adapt themselves to undertake any of the Company's duties."

- [Codex DA p26]

 

trained as such the RW could field 10 full RSS squadrons, or, 10 full RAS squadrons as VH says, or indeed any mix of the two in any proportion of full or part squadrons -- which would result in a bewilderingly wide vehicle spectrum to choose from ranging from the extremes of 33 x 3-man RAS bike units to 50 x 1-speeder RSSs :tu:

 

Flexibility and fit for tactical purpose is definitely the key here.

[Tanhausen]

50 typhoons + MM... ;)

[Isiah]

50 typhoons + MM... :D

 

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