Hazelnut Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I'm magnetising my son's Razorback so it can serve in as many roles as possible, and one of the weapon options which doesn't come with the kit, as I'm sure you all know, is the TL Plasma / Las cannon option. I'd already magnetised the top cowling so that the TL Las and the TL HB's could be swapped, and wanted to add the Plas/Las option which means building the TL Plasma. After reading some guides and seeing pictures of other peoples conversions, mostly using two plasma guns, I wasn't so keen on them ending up being a lot shorter than the remaining Las cannon. In an attempt to construct one that would be almost as long, I decided to use the body of a multi-melta and two SW plasma pistols that we had left over from other conversions. (I had used the melta barrels for combi-meltas, and the pistol arms for meltagun GH's) I honestly thought that it wouldn't work out too well because the pistols would look too small, but that maybe when combined with the MM body there was a chance it would work - worth a shot at least. Now I've built it, I actually think it looks pretty good! Here are some photos after painting. (ignore the partially painted Razorback, not even painted the remaining piece of Las cannon yet so the join sticks out like a sore thumb. Also I know a lot of people hate the baby blue look, but this is the partial base coat which then has Asurman blue and Badab black washes applied - you can see the end result on troops in my other gallery, and it looks loads better in the flesh/plastic... the camera flash just makes it so bright) And here's one before painting showing the basic construction, didn't think to take any before basecoating. Basically I cut a rectangle out of the MM body as well as removing the hand grip and dual hose, and attached the glued together pistols (which already had the hand and trigger removed) to it using a small brick of putty - molding it to blend the bigger width of the dual pistols. Then glued a magnet to the other end which fixes to the cut off Las cannon which also has a magnet in. Before the putty was dry I pushed a small piece of hose (taken from MM shoulder guard) into it, as well as the large dual hose going horizontally from the putty to the magnet. And the bits used from the MM body: I wanted to share in case anyone else likes the look and finds this useful. So what do you all think, does it work? I'm really pleased with it coming out almost the same length as the lascannon, and the wolf teeth are a nice touch. :tu: It most definitely surprised me how well this turned out - I was convinced I'd be starting over with two plasma guns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Now that is sweet. Certainly kicks the ass of the typical two plasma guns glued together design, which is what I did. My only complaint has nothing to do with the conversion - the poor photo quality hurts my eyes and my delicate sensibilities. It seems your camera is set on a very low quality / resolution setting and/or you cropped the plasma close ups way, way WAY too much and/or your camera is too old and sucks. But your conversion is awesome, which is what really matters, and I am a photo snob, so don't feel so bad. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2673478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 Now that is sweet. Certainly kicks the ass of the typical two plasma guns glued together design, which is what I did. My only complaint has nothing to do with the conversion - the poor photo quality hurts my eyes and my delicate sensibilities. It seems your camera is set on a very low quality / resolution setting and/or you cropped the plasma close ups way, way WAY too much and/or your camera is too old and sucks. But your conversion is awesome, which is what really matters, and I am a photo snob, so don't feel so bad. :tu: Thanks Fred, glad you like it. I feel like I kinda stumbled upon it just because the spare parts were just knocking around. Sorry about the photo quality, I don't know how to do close ups with my camera (6mp 4 year old digital) - all I do is hold it over a meter away at full zoom and fiddle until the autofocus works and take the picture. I then have to crop 80% of it away... feels pretty lame explaining it. I'm sure the camera has a manual focus and close up mode, but that would require locating the manual. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2673483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hm. Well, I'm going to applaud your creativity, 'cause that is a very good idea, but the Plasma Pistols aren't doing it for me man. Plasma Guns would look far more nasty. Note to self.. when you get another Razorback sprue.. also order two plasmaguns and a plastic multi-melta. Did you magnatize it so you can switch back to twin-linked lascannons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2673518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hm. Well, I'm going to applaud your creativity, 'cause that is a very good idea, but the Plasma Pistols aren't doing it for me man. Plasma Guns would look far more nasty. Note to self.. when you get another Razorback sprue.. also order two plasmaguns and a plastic multi-melta. I'm not sure if that would work, because it might end up too wide for the MM body and too long overall, but you can always cut the Las barrel further back to get the length right. I'll hold a couple of the guns next to it tomorrow and try and visualise how that would look. Slightly beefier coils and muzzles would definitely be nice, maybe there's a better option for the back end, although a MM does help make two combi-melta's as well, which is nice. Love to see it if anyone does try it though. Did you magnatize it so you can switch back to twin-linked lascannons? Absolutely, and you can't tell it was even cut which is better than I expected. It was a tough cut to make, so I took my time. I also had to be ever so careful cutting the small forward support to the barrel so there would not be any gap when either the Las or Plas were put on. I knew I was running the risk of ruining my sons Razorback turret... but it was too much fun not to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2673530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 THAT is a really sweet conversion.Ive been looking for a way to model this for a few weeks now, and this is by far the most elegant ive seen - good work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2673539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Well, first of all, I just want to say I love it when a Dad does something cool for his boy. Warm fuzzies sent your way :) I think it looks very good and he will be stoked to be pushing it around the table. Yours looks as good as any I have seen online :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2673697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 THAT is a really sweet conversion.Ive been looking for a way to model this for a few weeks now, and this is by far the most elegant ive seen - good work! Thank you, glad you like it. Well, first of all, I just want to say I love it when a Dad does something cool for his boy. Warm fuzzies sent your way :D I think it looks very good and he will be stoked to be pushing it around the table. Yours looks as good as any I have seen online :tu: Thanks, yeah I love doing stuff like this - it's a lot of fun. If GW actually produced everything then the fun of conversions would be diminished.. When I told him about what I was doing he was like "You can have that on a Razorback? Where's my Codex? ... Oh yeah, cool, do it." :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'm starting to wonder if the current Razorback could be modified to look kinda like the old Las/Plas one did. Two plasma guns with a lascannon inbetween them, all three mounted on the old metal blast shield. Could be done with the way the weapons are set up, but it would require lots of knife-work. I'll have to try that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Before you rush out to buy anything, could you wait a week? I'm working on something VERY similar that you might want to borrow/steal/pillage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hm. Well, I'm going to applaud your creativity, 'cause that is a very good idea, but the Plasma Pistols aren't doing it for me man. Plasma Guns would look far more nasty. Note to self.. when you get another Razorback sprue.. also order two plasmaguns and a plastic multi-melta. I'm not sure if that would work, because it might end up too wide for the MM body and too long overall, but you can always cut the Las barrel further back to get the length right. I'll hold a couple of the guns next to it tomorrow and try and visualise how that would look. Slightly beefier coils and muzzles would definitely be nice, maybe there's a better option for the back end, although a MM does help make two combi-melta's as well, which is nice. Love to see it if anyone does try it though. I just took a look and it'd not be much wider, 1-2mm I reckon, and if you cut the Las cannon 4 recesses futher back (I cut the first) it would probably sit nice and snug beneath the cowling and be the same overall length of the remaining Las cannon. I'm starting to wonder if the current Razorback could be modified to look kinda like the old Las/Plas one did. Two plasma guns with a lascannon inbetween them, all three mounted on the old metal blast shield. Could be done with the way the weapons are set up, but it would require lots of knife-work. I've seen pictures of this, but only with a pred turret (like this: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271760) or some othe non-standard RB mounting. Like always I can't find the pictures I recall seeing a few weeks ago, and google is failing me. As Darkseer says, you might want to wait and see what he's come up with... although he's giving no clues so far. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Before you rush out to buy anything, could you wait a week?I'm working on something VERY similar that you might want to borrow/steal/pillage No! As a Space Wolf, I must rush out and buy everything while I stab other people in the ribs and steal their ale. Yes Darkseer, I will wait. I will not wait, however, to order a Razorback frame so that I can build a twin-las turret for my Razorback. I've seen pictures of this, but only with a pred turret (like this: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271760) or some othe non-standard RB mounting. Like always I can't find the pictures I recall seeing a few weeks ago, and google is failing me. I found one on DakkaDakka, made by Tear of the Angel: http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2010/11/8...2362.jpg__thumb http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2010/11/8...2362.jpg__thumb Stupidly simple, but at that low mounting I'm not sure the turret can see over the tank hatch in front of it. Personally I would have used more of the mounting to raise the weapons up off the turret base. BTW, in my google search for Las/Plas Razorback, I'm struck silly at how many of these seem to be Space Wolf players and no one else. Like they're the only army who values firepower ingenuity or something. Although.. they did make the Predator Annihilator, and I suspect the Las/Plas Razorback was also a Space Wolves invention. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 I have just received confirmation that Wayland is posting mine out, so that is quite exciting :P I think I will go another route. Keep the tl LC as is, but instead of the storm bolter cupola that Rhinos use, it'll be a twin plasma gun cupola ^_^ That makes it easier to pull each separate piece off without having to use my magnet-fu. Which is good, but less [work] is more ;) Naturally all shots will be measured from the turret Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Before you rush out to buy anything, could you wait a week?I'm working on something VERY similar that you might want to borrow/steal/pillage No! As a Space Wolf, I must rush out and buy everything while I stab other people in the ribs and steal their ale. Yes Darkseer, I will wait. I will not wait, however, to order a Razorback frame so that I can build a twin-las turret for my Razorback. I've seen pictures of this, but only with a pred turret (like this: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271760) or some othe non-standard RB mounting. Like always I can't find the pictures I recall seeing a few weeks ago, and google is failing me. I found one on DakkaDakka, made by Tear of the Angel: http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2010/11/8...2362.jpg__thumb http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2010/11/8...2362.jpg__thumb Stupidly simple, but at that low mounting I'm not sure the turret can see over the tank hatch in front of it. Personally I would have used more of the mounting to raise the weapons up off the turret base. BTW, in my google search for Las/Plas Razorback, I'm struck silly at how many of these seem to be Space Wolf players and no one else. Like they're the only army who values firepower ingenuity or something. Although.. they did make the Predator Annihilator, and I suspect the Las/Plas Razorback was also a Space Wolves invention. Close, but still no cigar. Mine's so beautifully simple ^_^ I can't wait to get home from working 'oop North to finish it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 I have just received confirmation that Wayland is posting mine out, so that is quite exciting :P I think I will go another route. Keep the tl LC as is, but instead of the storm bolter cupola that Rhinos use, it'll be a twin plasma gun cupola :D That makes it easier to pull each separate piece off without having to use my magnet-fu. Which is good, but less [work] is more ;) Naturally all shots will be measured from the turret Like this guy then: http://idicbeer.blogspot.com/2011/01/inter...-razorback.html I don't like how it looks personally, preferring the turret mounting, but if you like it that guide may help. Doing it that way will certainly avoid the tricky cutting of the Las cannon barrel, and then drilling holes for magnets. I also magnetised to top cowling & dozer blade differently to him as well, not cutting anything off in either case. I also didn't see the point of magnets for the hatches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2674848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Before you rush out to buy anything, could you wait a week?I'm working on something VERY similar that you might want to borrow/steal/pillage No! As a Space Wolf, I must rush out and buy everything while I stab other people in the ribs and steal their ale. Yes Darkseer, I will wait. I will not wait, however, to order a Razorback frame so that I can build a twin-las turret for my Razorback. Close, but still no cigar. Mine's so beautifully simple :D I can't wait to get home from working 'oop North to finish it! So, it's been a week, any progress on this? I'm keen to see what you've come up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2680534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Gimme a break, I've spent most of the weekend slapping James about in Warhammer 40K. I'm working on it this week. Hopefully this evening... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2680548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelnut Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Gimme a break, I've spent most of the weekend slapping James about in Warhammer 40K. Heh, as long as you were enjoying yourself. I'm working on it this week. Hopefully this evening... No rush, I'm just very curious. (and spent the last week bored out of my mind because of being ill and useless) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223577-tl-plasma-option-for-razorback/#findComment-2680645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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