joghurtberserker Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 hi guys, long story short, i need some help with the cholor scheme on my demon prince. some weeks ago i started to build a demon prince with the parts left from a plastic demon prince kit. i dont know if someone still remembers the Juggernaut, thats been posted in this forum some years ago. it was a cybot with legs of an imperial guard sentinel. at least i remembered it and i thought these legs might fit quite nice with a demon prince. initially i planned the demon prince as hq for my iron warriors. nough said, here some earlier wip pictures, sorry for these crappy pics http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0218.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0220.jpg pauldrons, both arms, front of the breastplate, head and cloth between the legs are from demon prince kit. legs, exhaust pipes are sentinel and the rest is miliput. cause my demon prince shall lead my iw, i wanted the prince to look like a lot of flesh fused mechanical parts. i also modelled a rebreathemask for the face and cut the horns of the head. but as mentioned my problems are about the painting. here some pics. better then the ones above but still not good. but i think i improved, at least a bit. http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0243.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0241.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0239.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0238.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0252.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0250.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0248.jpg you might have already seen what my problem is. i think the prince looks kind of boring. when i look at it i got the impression that something is wrong about it. i would be pleased i any of you had some suggestions for me. thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheIron Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I think you're being a little hard on yourself there, he looks great, and when surrounded by his much smaller minions, he'll take on the imposing vision you're after, i just think its because you're viewing him in isolation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2673891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joghurtberserker Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 thanks for those kind words. here another pic with one of his more colorful minions although he is no iw, maybe that might ilustrate my problem. http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0253.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2673898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I agree, I understand he's a bit "plain" in the sense that he doesn't have all these bits and bobs details and whatnot. But he looks really good like this and I don't think he needs 'em. He looks cool gripping the terrain, and it actually adds so much to the piece. It's a simple but effective scheme, the red and dull grey contrast well. At most, I might consider suggesting dull yellow banding to go with the grey? and maybe some colour on the dreadnought on his base? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2673899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 maybe some gold trim on the, er, trimmings of the armour? The wires (torso, legs etc) could be painted a different colour too, or black with yellow stripes? I really like this model, but does seem a bit two toned, Iron warriors like their chevrons and stuff. and the wreckage could be painted in the colour of a favoured enemy too :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2673949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 personally I think it's looks a bit khornish in it's simplicity. Very "I'm not going to waste my time telling you how I'm going to eviscerate you or showing past trophies of my efforts. If you've actually stood there and listened to me say this, you're already dead." Like a deamon that has a machine thing going on and sides with the Iron Warriors due to their preference for heavy metal but isn't actually an Iron Warrior. if that makes any sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2673951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Like the others I think he looks great! What would probably make him pop a little more would be gold trims like has been suggested here and paint the shoulder pads black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2673965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sword brethren Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 i think it looks top class and i would be proud of such a beast to lead my iron warriors. if you wanted to make it more unique you could add a couple of servo arms protruding from his back. to be honest i think its great though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2673972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan The Deamon Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 you've got two or three color schemes in a very complex model. I suggest giving the armor trims some different color than the armor, gold, black, something to tie the army together, spot colors if you will. Then a big must from me would be to blend some of that wonderful skin color into his chest piece. It looks hybrid between ceramite and muscle while the legs don't, and you've got them painted the same. The shoulderpads could use some of the daemon skin treatment and definitely some burning/scorching where the details and designs are etched in. Then alter the sentinel legs from the power armor color. Grease them up with some brown and chestnut inks and washes around the pumps, hoses, and hydrolics. Create a more machine feel with the legs and make a more armor/daemonic feel with the chest piece and shoulders. Sword hilt has the same problem as it's the same color as the two aforementioned. Make it bone or maybe some cool other color. Create some defining qualities as right now you only have about three colors going on; metal, red skin, and a purple sword. When i first saw the WIP i though "OH!" it looked kick butt. I think you've done a good job making something new and creating an awesome piece but i think the above things would finish it quite nicely. Also leaving the dead sentinel on the base allows the viewers eyes to make the distinction between parts being used. They see the dead terrain sentinel, the legs, and the power packs and all of a sudden the allusion goes away. I say tear the sentinel off the base and replace it with something that doesn't dilute your image by showing which kits you used to make him. good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Targhost Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Realy nice Deamon prince :) and like Dan says something missing there like the oyly greas in the pisstons.. ;) id say Black and yellow rimed cabels on him would give a bit of the Iron warriors thing to it :) ? and the base is lacking somthing maby another colour on the sentinel and some sand ? Cheers anyway mate on a cool DP! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I think it is amazing... maybe some colour on the dread... unless you wanna leave it as being what the daemon prince has spawned from. It would be kind of fitting for a Dread to be the highest ranked CSM to whatever minor god the IW have found that also loves their machinery type ways. The only other thing i can think is maybe a "glow" style thing to do from the armour or some gold trim as someone else said. Personally, I love it and I wish i had half of your ability. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 He looks very much like a Strogg Overlord / Iron Warrior Prince. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I heartily agree with what almost everyone else has said. I think if you detail the armour in gold or brass, perhaps fit some chevrons in on the 'backpack'. Add some grease and grime to his augmetic areas and use some of his flesh colour on the chest plate to suggest it's part of his body and you'll be all set. Aside from painting (and what you've done so far is great) this is an absolutely inspired conversion and the compostion and posing of the mini is superb as well. I'd be proud to have him leading an army :) Nice work James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joghurtberserker Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 thanks for all your suggestions. just returned from my local dealer. had to get some paint. i really like the idea of painting the cables in yellow and black. i also like your suggestions about the shoulder pads and the armour trims. i will post some new pics when i'm done with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joghurtberserker Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 if you wanted to make it more unique you could add a couple of servo arms protruding from his back. thought about that too. gave the techmarine servo harness a try but it was too small so i'll have tu build something myself. but i also wanted to give it a jumppack. will have to figure out what that might look like. got some sanguinary guard jumppacks and some basic ideas thought it should have at least four arms so it has eight limbs in the end, kind of a livin' eight pointed star Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Incredable, I love it! Fantastic job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 less is more, and this just screams MOAR! you've done a very cool job :) Thumbs up !D Would be a cool addition to any army :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 It looks very nice but I'm concerned about the fact that there is a sentinel torso on a DP base that walks on sentinel legs. Though there is no hiding that they are sentinel legs and exhaust, which is fine, it's just that with the added bonus of an actual sentinel torso on deck it's hard not to think of it as some kind of demon spirit that exploded out of a sentinel pilot and took the mech's legs. I'm not sure if I'm articulating this very well... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hivetrygon Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 That turned out rather well. :o I think the execution of the figure as a whole works for me. Good job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2674588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joghurtberserker Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 +update+ still got some work to do but painted the cables and changed the shoulder pads, let it look more than an iron warrior. also kicked the sentinel hull of the base. instead will add some liquid flowing out of the sewer pipe.. still haven't started on building the servo harness, parts have not arrived yet. http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0262.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/joghurtberserker/100_0263.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2678133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 ;) Holy cow, that thing is neat-o! I may have to swipe that Sentinel legs design for my Iron Warriors side project! Very cool, thanks for sharing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2678268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Lord Shamrockius Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Wow, that's better. The bare metal is broken up and you've done a fantastic job on the shading of the trim to make it fit in with everything else. Very impressive work. again, although I say that, i've just died a little bit inside and i won't mind admitting that i also hate you from a place of pure envy... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2678941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Doyle Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I already liked it as it was. I personally think it was ellegant with two opposing matching colors such as bright red and bluish grey. That said I got to say this thing looks wicked now, dark and gothic and menacing, very 40k. The flowing tabard gives the scene a lot of movement in an otherwise paused setting, which I like a lot. IMHO he doesn't need more bulk on the back, it could unbalance the composition and make a sleek sculpt too top heavy, alas, if you need it for gaming purposes, then I guess you have no choice... Ace work man! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2678963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwulf133 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Wow, how freaking sad is this. This happens to me every time. My laziness kills me once again. I had almost this very same daemonprince sticky tacked together to see what it would look like. It has set on my desk since the kit came out. Good job man. I guess great minds think alike. I guess I am just waiting for new chaos rules LOL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2679092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foolio_Displasius Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Truly an amazing piece. The only thing that occurs to me is that his cranium could use some emphasis. It's simply lost amid all the awesome going on elsewhere. He might look good with something of a lighter color sticking up over his head. Maybe do a back-banner in the same color scheme as you've got for his loincloth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223606-demon-prince/#findComment-2679119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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