vharing Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I was wondering what all you guys figured Mephy's base size should be. I have seen a few with a infantry base and I have seen a few with a termi sized base. I bought my model when back in the dark days of 3rd Ed. before he was less awesome. With the stats he has now I would say a termi base is almost required, but I am not sure how that would go for GW sanctioned tournaments. Edit: Just looked at the GW site and they are still selling him with a 25mm base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 He's a daemon prince, so he should be on a 60mm, but he's supplied with a 25mm base so he has to be on a 25mm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2675871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel_Fish Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I made my own and used a Termie base just because he would look really claustrophobic on regular sized base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2675884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabgoi Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Manipulation of base sizes is pretty frowned upon. Even if you are just trying to make your model look better because its a custom one and is larger then normal, or because you want to put the Lord of Death on a particularly scenic base as he is deserving of stuff, you may get accused of trying to cheat by changing the base size. Your best bet is to always keep a mini on the same size base as it came with. I am still torn on whether I should move all of my old terminators to the larger bases. On one hand they came on those bases, on the other hand the current terminators come on a larger base. The problem is changes in base size affect how many units can engage them in close combat and can alter the course of combat, especially when dealing with powerful close combat units. In a friendly game, go with what you want, for anything GW sanctioned, like Seahawk said, use what it came with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2675918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 He's a daemon prince, so he should be on a 60mm, :) Thats a good one. You could argue stuff like a C'Tan should really be on something massive large too of course that would just make them silly good. (They might stop falling over too) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Rik Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 ... he's supplied with a 25mm base so he has to be on a 25mm. I'm not aware of any rule saying a model has to be on the base it comes with anymore. That was 4th ed. They scrapped all that in 5th ed. I have been to tournaments with models on larger base sizes - namely converted broadside battle suits on 60mm bases - and no one cared at all. This was at the Throne of Skulls tournaments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 ... he's supplied with a 25mm base so he has to be on a 25mm. I'm not aware of any rule saying a model has to be on the base it comes with anymore. That was 4th ed. They scrapped all that in 5th ed. I have been to tournaments with models on larger base sizes - namely converted broadside battle suits on 60mm bases - and no one cared at all. This was at the Throne of Skulls tournaments. The rule says has to be on the same size now unless approval is gotten prior to the game. page uh.. I want to say 8 but thats probably wrong. Its right in the front there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Page 3 seems to be what you're referring to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Biskit Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 ... he's supplied with a 25mm base so he has to be on a 25mm. I'm not aware of any rule saying a model has to be on the base it comes with anymore. That was 4th ed. They scrapped all that in 5th ed. God I wish this was true. Seth on a Dreadnaught base anyone.... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealadin Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 He's a daemon prince, so he should be on a 60mm, but he's supplied with a 25mm base so he has to be on a 25mm. Shouldn't encourage this rumour. Mine came on a 25mm and looks fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 yea the rule book says base supplied unless you get opponents permision. sticking seth on anything bigger to gain a benifit is just rude and i wouldnt play such a player. at most whirlwind of gore hits 6 models! as for mephy, he looks cooler on larger so i just made his bases interchangeable... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I play with almost all my Characters on big bases, but understand that in tournaments they can be funny about those kind of things- especially State side. I've remodeled my minis in anticipation for my USA tour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGABOND Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 All of my characters are mounted on 40mm bases, I just find it looks better and to make them stand out thats all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d503 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 My seth is on a 40mm base - but then again everyone from sargent upwards gets a larger base and a name. He can hit max 6 models in a turn. No-one has ever had a problem with that. My Mephiston uses the Inquisitor Karamazov model (minus the mega-melta, plus a dreadnaught sized jetpack). He is on a 60mm base of course. I think the fluff for mephiston is crap, so I'd rather have an inquisitor on a war-throne instead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I run all my characters on 25 mm bases, with the exception of my Chaos Sorcerer on Disk of Tzeentch. Mephiston is the only one where 25 mm seems too small. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I put all my ICs on 25 mm bases inlcuding the Lord of Death - less potential for headaches that way. G :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I'm not really sure why people seem to think 25mm is too small for Mephiston. The model is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a large one. If anything, it looks rather small next to some of the more recent sculpts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Very true. He looks perfectly fine on the base, being slightly smaller than many other current sculpts. I'm not aware of any rule saying a model has to be on the base it comes with anymore. That was 4th ed.The 4th edition rule was "Base supplied or larger is acceptable." Now it's simply "the base supplied" as it says on page 3. Shouldn't encourage this rumourHaha, why not? His fluff vaguely supports it and his stat-line definitely supports it B). Doesn't mean I don't like using him...my Blood Angels love their daemonic death lord...I mean Lord of Death...:P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 He's not a Daemon Prince. Real old school players know he is in fact a Vampire Count. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 As we old blue players hate the new fluff, as we old red players hate the new fluff too (it's all Wardian plop). Of course he's a Vampire Lord that's beaten his curse through sheer epic willpower...somebody decided to throw it all out and make it so much less epic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 As we old blue players hate the new fluff, as we old red players hate the new fluff too (it's all Wardian plop). Of course he's a Vampire Lord that's beaten his curse through sheer epic willpower tower collapse...somebody decided to throw it all out and make it so much less epic. Fixed ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 It doesnt realy matter if you put Mephi on a bigger base, as far as i know he doesnt have a rule that allows him to strike anyone in basecontact like some characters do, like in Seths case. Suplied with a 25 mm base the max you get against me from him is 6 no funny bussines my brb is hardcover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I have done a Mephy conversion and have him on a 25mm base to save confusion and accusations :) , its a shame as he is crying out for a bigger one as I spent quite a bit of time on the model and he stands slightly taller than your average marine but figure that I would like to use him in tourni's in the future so ho hum.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2676957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I put mine on a display base which is I think 50mm, with a 25mm removable insert for gaming. Looks awesome for display and won't run into problems in game (when I finally paint and play with him). The 25mm part has a large elevated rock really makes him look imposing. I don't have a pic to hand of the model on the base, but the base is this one: http://www.darkartstore.darkartminiatures....-base-50mm.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2677096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I run all my SC's/hq's on 40mm bases, and play in tournaments frequently, and have never had an issue. I do it to make them stand out and look better, not for any bonuses. I could see how someone could be a phallus gobbler, but in my experience, i have never even had anyone come close to trying to call me out for it. Maybe different in other places, dunno Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223783-mephistons-base-size/#findComment-2677140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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