radens Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Situation: 5 longfangs are sitting in the ruins, 10 genestealers are coming near. After movement phase genestealer unit ends 1" next to terrain. Then in shooting phase they fleet 4" into the terrain. Then they assault the longfangs. The question is: Do genestealers attack with their normal initiative, or with initiative reduced to 1 becouse of assaulting through cover? note that whole unit is already in the terrain when the assault starts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 It is very easy. If , for any reason you have to roll a difficult terrain test, then you attack at Int 1. The only time it matters what the defenders are doing is if they are already locked in assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/#findComment-2677898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 It is very easy.If , for any reason you have to roll a difficult terrain test, then you attack at Int 1. The only time it matters what the defenders are doing is if they are already locked in assault. Or if the defenders have GtG or are pinned. They they will not be ready for the assault Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/#findComment-2678176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thade Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Looksl ike Acebaur and Seattle have this well and covered. =) Unless the Genestealers have some upgrade/mod on them that work as or like frag grenades, they're going at Init 1 on their assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/#findComment-2678213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 My Wolves have decimated Genestealers by waiting in cover for the assault. Rapid fire, sit tight in cover, Genestealers assault, Counter-attack, wipe goop off armor, Profit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/#findComment-2678246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 Looksl ike Acebaur and Seattle have this well and covered. =) Unless the Genestealers have some upgrade/mod on them that work as or like frag grenades, they're going at Init 1 on their assault. they used to have acess to frag grenades, but it was decided in 5th that a squishy pure assault unit that depends having a high initive should not have a frag grenade equivilent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/#findComment-2678456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 You also get units like harlequins that ignore difficult terrain :) and so can assault into cover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/#findComment-2678945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 And then there is those damn Banshees that go at I10 in the first round, no matter what the scenario is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/223937-assaulting-through-cover-when-you-are-in-the-same-cover/#findComment-2683793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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