Simo429 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Just a heads up that my review for battle of the fang can be found here long story short its the wolf's nuts (but please read the whole thing) So great to have an outstanding Space Wolf book after I found Prospero Burns to be disappointing although I will certainly give it another go after this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 nicely done wolf brother! I'm jealous! your a lucky wolf. From the sounds of it, looks like Chris Wraight gives the Wolves some justice. Both of you deserve an ale or two! I'm looking forward to reading her myself... I can't wait. Just a thought, would you be willing to give us a yes or no, simple questionaire.. without taking away or giving any spoilers since you read the book. Simple stuff like; 1) Do we get to see Terran born Space Wolves, yes or no answers only. 2) From what we already knew about the first battle of the Fang from our older codex, does this book stay true and close to the fluff? yes or no answers only. 3)Is Bjorn the Fell-Handed the main character, or are other characters involved or centered around the story like the wolf scout Haakon from the know fluff.. yes or no answers only. ---- Those are all I can think of right now, I appreciate if you can help. If not, completely understand! and thank you once again, your review gives allot of us hope for a good Space Wolf book. This also gives hope to allot of people who didn't like nor appreciate Prospero Burns. But like in mentioned in your blog, Prospero Burns is a grown up version/book of the previous Wolf novel, and I completely agree... I think its a reason why I liked Abnett's mature look and approach to the Wolves. Although I also agree about some of the things mentioned about what failed the book to Space Wolf fans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 1) Do we get to see Terran born Space Wolves, yes or no answers only. 2) From what we already knew about the first battle of the Fang from our older codex, does this book stay true and close to the fluff? yes or no answers only. 3)Is Bjorn the Fell-Handed the main character, or are other characters involved or centered around the story like the wolf scout Haakon from the know fluff.. yes or no answers only. 1) no 2) I know you wanted a yes or no but I can't so heres a spoiler bit although it isn't much of a spoiler the battle its self yes, the reasoning for it, maybe not 3) he is in it as much as any once awoken, there is no real main character Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 I'm happy to answer any other questions to the best of my ability Something that I forgot to mention was there is also a nice middle section with maps showing the campaign against the Fang ect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I'm just glad you enjoyed it, I'm really looking forward to this one, the first Battle of the Fang is amongst my favorite 40k stories. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Great review. I am really looking forward to reading this book. I feel Chris Wright's book can heal the dissension created in our ranks (or in my head :)) by Abnett's Prospero Burns. I had a feeling it was going to be good since Wraight has a propensity to respect and honour the material (at least his Empire novels show this well) more so than Abnett, who tends to make the subject his without regard to what the fans think or say, or the fluff for that matter. Wraight also is not afraid to write through the perspective of the Space Wolves, but having said that both are great authors and even though this forum knows ad nauseum what I think of Abnett's novel, I see the benefits of The Adventures of Kasper Hawser (aka Prospero Burns) for the Space Wolf Chapter and the necessity of such a book being written for the growth and image of our Chapter. If as Simo has written, the book builds on these positive aspects of The Adventures of Kasper Hawser then I am sure we are in for a treat. @Maverik - I don't think there were any Terran Space Marines left in any of the Chapters by M32, except for the Traitor legions in the Eye of Terror, but I could be wrong - as usual. In fact I think we need Chris Wraight to address this Terran Space Wolf problem with a another novel about the Space Wolves in the 31st millenium and bring them back from the limbo Dan Abnett through them in in his novel. @Simo429 - Out of curiosity, does Wraight use the terminology of Vlka Fenryka and Aett instead of Space Wolves and The Fang? While I'm at it check out Simo429 's blog. Some great material there! Long live the Fang and Chris Wraight! Long live the Fang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Aye, I've seen Chris pop in and out here at the Fang. I think that alone shows allot of respect. @Night Runner, understood. But at the same time.. I was thinking; how much did Fenris produce space marines at that early age in the imperium. I would imagine that the number of Terran space wolves, were far greater at the start of the great crusade. And I would hope that their remaining numbers, was reasonable enough after the heresy.. or after the seven years Russ disappeared. I mean if Long Fang was the last Terran born, that would indicate, X number of Terran space wolves died prior to his death would be HUGE. Oh and you really hate those terms huh? LOL I've read your blog and know the reason why. I just find it funny but understandable. Ohh and both Simo's and your blog are great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Questions: -Are we depicted as the jovial savage, Grim savage warrior, somewhere in between? -Is it mindless battle or is there a good plot/subplot? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Question: yes and no again. I don't want details. It will spoil it for me LOL 1) does the great wolf die like in the 2nd edition fluff fighting Magnus? 2) is there mention about the 13th? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Runner Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Aye, I've seen Chris pop in and out here at the Fang. I think that alone shows allot of respect. @Night Runner, understood. But at the same time.. I was thinking; how much did Fenris produce space marines at that early age in the imperium. I would imagine that the number of Terran space wolves, were far greater at the start of the great crusade. And I would hope that their remaining numbers, was reasonable enough after the heresy.. or after the seven years Russ disappeared. I mean if Long Fang was the last Terran born, that would indicate, X number of Terran space wolves died prior to his death would be HUGE. Oh and you really hate those terms huh? LOL I've read your blog and know the reason why. I just find it funny but understandable. Ohh and both Simo's and your blog are great! I honestly hope you are right regarding the Terran Space Wolves, besides the fact that what you say does make sense. As regards the terms I actually don't mind them, I just tend to avoid them because of the image they produce in my head when I say them due to my language. For example Vlka sounds like fika which is a female sexual organ and Fenyka sounds like fenka which is a rabbit. Do you get my meaning! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 Too many questions at once after an afternoon on the ale seeing the wolves of Kenny rip the throat out of the dastardly foes of the archenemy Ferguson. To answer first and I will do it all in spoilers so I don't spoil anything for anyone the questions are in order Nightrunner The wolves use the terminolgogy put forward by Abnett such as the Aett, it appears that Wraight worked closely with Abnett, he certainly got a read of it before we did. I didn't enjoy Prospero Burns it was too much too quickly but the terminology used in Battle for the Fang seems perfect. While I am at it thank you for the recommendation to our blog but it isn't mine, to start with it was two mates of mine who picked up 40K as adults and dipped their toes into the tournament scene, I met them through the first company vets club which has had its publicity lately and had a similar story and since then we have added 2 or 3 other regular contributors. We normally concentrate on Wolves but there are plenty of articles on other armies. Lord Ragnarok They certainly are somewhere in between and the action is great. For action I believe that its the best Black Library book I had read. Enjoyed every page and look foraward to reading it again once my dad has read it. Maverik Yes and it was a heroic and redeeming ending and unfortunately no Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I'll make sure I pick this up. I have to question if it will be any good when you say you didn't like Prospero Burns (which I loved). That said PB seems to be a very 'marmite' kind of book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2679955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 That said PB seems to be a very 'marmite' kind of book. English or Fenrisian only please. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2680204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 You don't get any more English than Marmite, don't reckon a Space Wolf would eat it like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2680625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 You don't get any more English than Marmite, don't reckon a Space Wolf would eat it like. World English Dictionarymarmite (ˈmɑːmaɪt) — n 1. a large cooking pot 2. soup cooked in such a pot 3. an individual covered casserole for serving soup 4. ( US ) military a container used to bring food to troops in the field [from French: pot] Marmite (ˈmɑːmaɪt) — n ( Brit ) trademark a yeast and vegetable extract used as a spread, flavouring, etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2680631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkseer Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Sorry, saying something's 'like Marmite' in English means it's something you either Love or Hate. Marmite did a really strong marketing campaign based on this years ago and it left a cultural imprint. A bit like Apple Tango - YOU NEED IT BECAUSE YOU'RE WEAK! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2680637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Mamite is like vegemite (not sure if they have it in America know that they do in Australia). Like Darkseer said, you either love it or you hate it, there is no middle ground Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/224066-review-of-battle-of-the-fang/#findComment-2680938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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