Combi plasma pistols

[arctic]

I've got 5 spare points and was considering giving my wolf priest a combi-plasma but don't want to do without the extra attack a bolt pistol brings. So, could he have a combi-plasma pistol? Do these exist? Or is he limited to a normal combi-plasma that reverts to a boltgun after its one plasma shot?

 

Thanks.

[Iron Father Rik]

I'm sure they can exist, speaking from a background perspective. I don't see really why they wouldn't, apart from some practicalities regarding packing all the necessary technology and ammo onto a pistol, but then this is science fiction, so I'm sure they could do it.

 

In terms of in-game, on the tabletop, no they do not exist. You can only get the normal combi bolter-plasmagun option.

[Darkseer]

Oh, so you want to have your cake and eat it? :rolleyes: lol

 

Just give him a wolf tail talisman for 5pts if you don't want to lose an attack.

[Brother Nathan]

or a plasma pistol though thats 15 points right?

[Valerian]

I've got 5 spare points and was considering giving my wolf priest a combi-plasma but don't want to do without the extra attack a bolt pistol brings. So, could he have a combi-plasma pistol? Do these exist? Or is he limited to a normal combi-plasma that reverts to a boltgun after its one plasma shot?

 

Thanks.

 

1. There is no Combi-pistol in 40k

2. Even if there was, there isn't an entry for it in the Wolf Priest section of your army list.

3. Unless your Priest is in TDA, the Combi-weapon costs 10 points, not 5.

4. To spend your extra 5 points, you can give him Melta Bombs or a Wolf Tail Talisman.

 

Valerian

[arctic]

Thanks for the replies. Thought it was worth checking!

 

WTT FTW!

[LoneSniperSG]

I'm sure they can exist, speaking from a background perspective. I don't see really why they wouldn't, apart from some practicalities regarding packing all the necessary technology and ammo onto a pistol, but then this is science fiction, so I'm sure they could do it.

 

In terms of in-game, on the tabletop, no they do not exist. You can only get the normal combi bolter-plasmagun option.

 

I don't know about that. If one looks at the Astartes Grenade Launcher in Codex: SM, it says specifically that the alternate combi-weapon can be mounted on anything, bolter, bolt pistol, sword, or even mounted somewhere else if needed.

 

I don't think it says combi-BOLTER, or combi-GUN, it says combi-WEAPON, which would imply to me that it could be mounted on anything, even though the models we have are based on bolters.

[Stormshrug]

I'm sure they can exist, speaking from a background perspective. I don't see really why they wouldn't, apart from some practicalities regarding packing all the necessary technology and ammo onto a pistol, but then this is science fiction, so I'm sure they could do it.

 

In terms of in-game, on the tabletop, no they do not exist. You can only get the normal combi bolter-plasmagun option.

 

I don't know about that. If one looks at the Astartes Grenade Launcher in Codex: SM, it says specifically that the alternate combi-weapon can be mounted on anything, bolter, bolt pistol, sword, or even mounted somewhere else if needed.

 

I don't think it says combi-BOLTER, or combi-GUN, it says combi-WEAPON, which would imply to me that it could be mounted on anything, even though the models we have are based on bolters.

 

I'm pretty sure that you can't actually make a combi-pistol in rules terms, but in pure fluff terms, sure. In Dark Heresy/Deathwatch, you can slap an Exterminator (basically the 'flamer' part of a combi-Flamer) on darn near anything (and certainly any gun). They don't have Plasma and Melta equivalents, but that probably has more to do with the prohibitive cost of Plasma and Melta weapons in Dark Heresy (they're a bit more affordable in Deathwatch since you are, after all, a Spess Mehreen). Of course, you can also put Astartes Melee attachments on just about anything, too. Totally worth it on your Assault Cannon!

 

-Stormshrug

[MaveriK]

hey remember that time when that Blood Claw asked about combi-plasma pistols? oh.. A W K W A R D

 

Stormshrug is right, fluff wise in general why not? heck, I remember something about digital weapons, in a form of rings. Kinda like the Infinity Gauntlet haha. Rules wise, for combi-plasma pistols.... no dice.

[henrik.balslev]

Combi-pistols do exist in the 40k-universe. This is a quote from the Rogue Trader RPG by Fantasy Flight Games, Specifically from the "Into the Storm" book

 

COMBI-WEAPONS

Combi-weapons are an offshoot of the linked weapons system. Whereas Linked Weapons are essentially two of the same weapon mounted together, combi-weapons instead meld two different weapons together. This offers the user more tactical flexibility in the field, as he can switch from one weapon to the other without needing to stow one and draw a new one (as well as save weight by not having to carry them both). A combi-weapon contains a primary weapon, usually a lasgun, autogun, or boltgun, plus a one-shot secondary weapon mounted alongside the primary barrel. This is normally more powerful than the primary weapon, as it can only be used once, and as such is usually part of the weapon name (combi-plasma, combi-melta, etc). They are prized weapons amongst a wide variety of high-ranking Imperial servants, from Adeptus Astartes officers to Imperial Guard commanders to Adepta Sororitas Sister Superiors (who naturally favour combi-flamers).

Any two basic ranged weapons or any two pistol weapons can be combined into a combi-weapon. First, select which weapon is the primary weapon and which is the secondary weapon. The primary weapon retains its statistics—rate of fire, ammo capacity, and so forth—while the secondary weapon has its clip size reduced to one and its rate of fire becomes S/–/–. The weight of the new, combined weapon is equal to the weight of the primary weapon plus half the weight of the secondary weapon. The rarity is equal to the rarity of the rarer of the two weapons, plus one additional step. The GM has the final say on which weapons may and may not be combined.

 

Of course this does not mean that there are rules for them in the WH40K war-game.

[fivepointedstar]

Combi-pistols, bolters, meltas etc.. exist in Warhammer 40K: Kill Team made by THQ an arcade game for both XBOX 360, and PS3. I that case you pick up an weapon upgrade and shot two shots, three or up to four shot from each weapon system the controlling player has. :) I especially love running around as a Vanguard Vet with my plasma pistol/ LC and quad shot *laughs manically as an evil elf in glee killing orks*

[red_starrise]

Didn't the LE Games Day Wolf Priest have a combi-bolt pistol? I don't mean rules-wise but rather model-wise. I thought it looked like a double barrelled bolt pistol...

 

I don't see why one couldn't model it. No, there aren't rules for it in 40K but heck, once upon a time there was a hand flamer in 2nd Ed but it took it's sweet time coming back around again.

[Silverwolf]

Oh, so you want to have your cake and eat it? :) lol

 

Just give him a wolf tail talisman for 5pts if you don't want to lose an attack.

 

I'm curious how a WTT is supposed to avoid him losing an attack...?

[Vlk]

Oh, so you want to have your cake and eat it? :) lol

 

Just give him a wolf tail talisman for 5pts if you don't want to lose an attack.

 

I'm curious how a WTT is supposed to avoid him losing an attack...?

 

Well it lets him keep a bolt pistol.

[Silverwolf]

lol, good point. I was reading the comment as Darkseer thinking a WTT worked something like the Wolf Pelt of 13th Co.

 

Ignore me, I'll go stick my head back in my ale barrel :P