Wash for yellow.

[Reldn]

Hello all, it's finally happening. I'm actually painting up an Imperial Fist and my first miniature ever...Possibly last, as I seem to really suck at this. (Knew I should've just stuck with being a fluff junkie!)

 

Anyways, I'm wanting to apply a wash to the model when it's all painted up, but, have no washes/inks of any kind, just my paints. I've heard you can excessively water down the paints to make a wash, but, don't know which paint I should use for it. I've heard either Brown or Orange make for a good Imperial Fists wash. So, my choices are: Charred Brown or Orange Fire. Or should I skip that and just buy Quickshade?

 

Also, one last question: What colour would you suggest to highlight yellow? Thanks in advance.

[DarKHaZZ13]

if your're gonna buy something why not buy a wash?

 

but orange is a big no personally....I'd go with a yellowy brown colour

[Reldn]

if your're gonna buy something why not buy a wash?

 

Because, when I purchased the paints I somehow forgot all about nabbing a wash or inks. So now, it's just any port in the storm. Though, I may just stop for now and purchase some.

 

EDIT: I'll get some Gryphonne Sepia.

[Grizzly_bear]

This may help u....this was/still is my first way of painting my fists...

 

Basecoat L.darksun

 

Wash with ogryn flesh

 

Re layer L.darksun

 

2:1 ogryn flesh & water

 

Blend layer on a mix of 2:1 with L.darksun and bleached bone

 

Then another layer consiting of a 1:1 mix ratio

 

and a final wash of 3:1 water and ogryn flesh

 

Extreme highlight with bleached bone.....

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps.....

 

I've started using Bubonic brown lately in stead of the L.darksun to how these turn out and it's doing great but I put in komando kaki in aswel as bleached bone and use G.sepia wash along with ogryn flesh

[Cockroach]

Don't touch quickshade mate... its absolute pants.

[Fatuous]

Ahh Imperial Fists :D I started painting up my list about 6 months ago and can give you some info of my successes, pit falls and general comments.

 

First up, I went for a fairly bright colour, with with very dirty washes. I high light up to a golden yellow, but do not go up to bleached bone, etc....... as I wanted to keep the popping yellow, but still keep it dark. An odd mix of requirements I admit, but pretty happy with how it looks, and how easy it is to paint.

 

If you do not have GW washes, I would highly recommend you pick up the entire set if possible. I've used all of them now, and it is suprising how green and purple washes add interest to metalics, gold and bolt gun metal............ but for now.

 

I would not wash them in orange myself. Go with a brown colour instead. depending on how dark you brown is, u may want to lighten it up first, but tbh, what ever brown u have should be ok............

 

I'll assume for now that you have some sort of watered down brown, or have managed to pick up a Devlan Mud (brown wash).

 

I under coat my Imp Fists in white. As you are going to use the foundation yellow (cant rememebr the exact name, dark sun something or other) a black under coat will work fine (and make painting the guns easier) but I like the white under coat, as the yellow really pops :D

 

Paint pretty much the entire model in foundation yellow. I tend to use a spray gun unless I am painting up a single model. But a brush works fine.

 

I then pick out all the details I want to. So bolt gun metal for the gun (I'm lazy and do not paint up the casing differently, but it is worth it if you have the time), bits of piping I want to stand out, the back of the kness, etc........ then bleach bone for any skulls, scrolls, etc..... red for the chest eagle (i tend to use the foundation red as a base, and then hight light to a brighter colour, but any red that goes on in a single coat is fine, and again, with the white undercoat, saves the number of coats u have to paint on). Eyes I leave till last, altho that usual ends up with me going over the lines and having to redo bits later.

 

I then wash the entire model in devlan mud (watered down brown paint or what ever). I put a fairly think coating on as I know I will have to rehighlight all the yellow anyway.

 

Once this is dry, u actually have a half decent table top quality model already, a bit dark perhaps due to the wash (once u get the hang of it, u can start to aim towards the ares that need the darkness, but to start with, just slap it on everything!), but enough colours to be tourni legal and they look half decent. I very nearly decided at this stage to not rehighlight the armour, but am glad I did.

 

Then I'll go over all the raised areas again with foundation yellow. As I usually spray my base coat of yellow, I have a fair amount of watered down foundation yellow that I usually use for this. it is thinner so goes on really easily, and is going over the same colour, just with a bit of wash on it, so it works well, and has the consistence I find really good for quickly slapping a coat back on the top to rehighlight, leaving all the resesses darker.

 

I'll then do a similar thing but with Golden yellow, or even a watered down golden yellow. This is the hardest bit TBH, as it doesnt go on as well as the foundation, so can end up looking lumpy......... the watered down version of golden yellow can help with this, but it is brush stroke technique, and keeping the layers down to a light coating, and use multiple coats to build up the colour. Fussing over small bits I find tends to make it look worse, so just even handed storkes seem to work well and avoid a blotchy look.

 

And that is about it........ usually it doesn't go quite as smoothly as this, and my rehighlighting the yellow gets in to darker ares I do not want it to..... that is where the different shades of washes like gryphin sepia (well worth having IMO) is useful, to blend the colours in more, and to shade golds, etc......... with out going too dark and adding to the yellow.

 

Then a simple highlight of everything else that needs it. add red to the chest (the wash will have started the highlighting for you), add eyes and ur about done.

 

Oh, I do usually rewash anything metalic with a black wash was well, to get the shade better, or they just look like dirty weapons. Do this before you start highlighting the yellow!!!!! Or you will have to do that step again.

 

If you do not have foundation yellow, you are making painting yellow 100 times harder than it needs to be.

 

For me, the washes make you rlife so much easier as well. The boxed set ahs 3 differnt washes that you can use. Devlan mud, which is I have found, u can pretty much wash on ANYTHING, and it makes it look good. Ogryn flesh, which tbh, I find har do treally differentiate between unless I have examples of both to hand, but a bit more flesh tone, and lighter than dev mud. And griffin sepia, which is lighter again, and more yellow than fleshy.

 

You could easily use any of those to wash imp fist armour and it will still look good. TBH, I suspect you could wash the whole model black and it would still work :D but be a bit harder in rehighlighting the yellow (maybe).

 

Good luck, you've choosen a hard colour scheme.......... if you were 3 years ago, I would suggest a different scheme, but with the foundation paints, and washes available, it is much more do-able now :D

 

Will try to get some pics uploaded some time.

 

I use this for armour plates on all units. Marines, scouts, dreads, etc............

[Reldn]

Thank you all for your replies. As of now I have the lone Tac marine all painted up aside from a wash and highlights.(And also have a Termie and another Tac marine undercoated white.) When I get that done I may try to post up some pictures....To be quite honest however, I'm afraid to post up pictures of it. I personally am proud of how it's looking for being my first time painting ever, but, I also look at all these other minis on here that totally put mine to shame.

 

And actually the yellow I use is the Vallejo game colour Bald Moon Yellow and it seems to work quite well. Though, some of their paints seem quite watery from the get go.

[Reldn]

Just a quick update: I received the Gryphonne Sepia and gave the mini a wash...It looks okay I guess, but, it muted my yellow a bit more than I'd like. (Yeah, I'm one of those who likes his Imperial Fists BRIGHT yellow *laughs*)

 

Well, now just to do a little highlighting with Bleached Bone, try to get some decent pictures, post 'em up, and then you can see just how bad I truly am! :P

[DapperDave]

I wash my IF's with both Sepia and Ogryn Flesh (only in deepest recesses) and they come out plenty bright :P

 

http://plasticspaceguys.com/uploads/ImpFist_test_right.jpg

[Reldn]

I wash my IF's with both Sepia and Ogryn Flesh (only in deepest recesses) and they come out plenty bright :cuss

 

http://plasticspaceguys.com/uploads/ImpFist_test_right.jpg

 

Mine certainly came out looking nothing like that after the wash. Mine looks kind of dirty and in some places looks like the wash didn't really go anywhere. I probably did it wrong somehow, go figure.

[Hemal]

When you wash, you alwya sneed to be prepared toouch up colours. Else wash in a controlled manner, as if you are painting. My view would be to start painting up from bubonic brown or Iyanden Darksun, was with gryphonne sepia (a couple of washes) touch up with Iyanden dark sun and high light up from there to sunburst yellow.