Terminatorinhell Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hey guys, I wanted a mini break from my LPC (not enough spray paint for my LRR actually), so I have been trying new techniques for painting my centerpiece miniatures and I found out black is a b**** of a color to do right, I am actually using an off black color (chaos black base coat with layers of CB mixed with codex grey getting lighter). I looked up some tutorials on the matter and an artist friend of mine said to do a pure white highlight then feather it down as needed. The AOBR marine is the result of the white highlights, battle damage and Eye glow, can I have some input on improving the techniques used on him so I can utilize it better on my chapter master? Chapter Master WIP http://i52.tinypic.com/2mx3bja.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/1t0gly.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/s24osy.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/2e4vtqd.jpg Experimental Marine (only the head is painted) My biggest concern is the white highlight I tried to feather the edges so it isn't as hard but I am afraid it is too stark a contrast, should I just do codex grey or another lighter grey? http://i55.tinypic.com/143oly0.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/256tu7a.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester_prince Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Id go with a CB/Blue base and highlight with lighter shades of blue, but im no painting guru, I think I saw it in a tutorial somewhere, may have been BOLS if i find the link illl post it here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2692854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hey dude, I like, just the one white line under the eye lens seems out of place, imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2692863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted March 19, 2011 Author Share Posted March 19, 2011 Thanks J_P and Grot, @jester prince: If you can find it it would be very appreciated, I am using a CMON guid for most of my work. @Grotsmasha: I see how it could look odd but its kind of like a under lens glow you know what I mean? I might see how it looks on Ryoto (the CM) when i do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2694030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester_prince Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2010/08/wfb...k-cool-way.html Here you go I finally found it. I havnt tried it yet but I certainly will when I get a chance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2694104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 I did a ton of work on Ryoto today, I did the eyes, the highlights (might feather them more), the battle damage, the cloths and purity seals (both about 70% done). I also tried to make a warmer metal. http://i53.tinypic.com/who51i.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/2w55643.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/2m5zb6o.jpg (his butt purity seal looks a bit splotchy...) http://i52.tinypic.com/wjtilj.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/29wmupu.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/2ldhjwh.jpg I just realized he looks like he is wearing Helghan colors (from Killzone 3) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2694824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 After a long day's work, this is what I managed to get done, Im not sure how to highlight the leather or what to do with the bone accents so I could use a few ideas and does anyone have ideas to improve the sword? http://i53.tinypic.com/259y63m.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/2ljgoeq.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/4raids.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/4vl104.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/2dv4k1c.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2695779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemainus Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 typically when I highlight leather, I straight-line highlight a single side with Elf Flesh (any light skin tone will do.) Then, take the same elf flesh and mix it 50/50 with Calthan Brown. Dabble a little water in there, and cut into the individual straps, trying to leave a little of the pure elf flesh visible. Last, hit the Calthan Brown with a liiiiitle black (or a darker brown, or gray, whatever, doesn't matter) and tap out the shadowed portions. Tidy up the lines if necessary and then hit it with a wash - instant downtown for the shading and it mellows out the leather-look, which is nice. Takes like two minutes. (I am sure there are more in depth, intricate ways of doing this, but a better "Time to Result Ratio", I have yet to find. As for Bone, I am a dirty filthy cheater. You definitely want advice from someone else on that one. Hah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2695902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Thanks Lemainus! I will definitely grab those paints. Also upon further inspection I realized I didnt like the sword effect very much so I might make the sword just metallics with heavy shadow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2696199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 I really shouldn't be modelling with finals and AP exams (AP Psych and AP Calc :/) next week but I needed some stress relief... I am revamping a project from a while back, my FW Mk3 marines :) they now have bad ass miniguns which can either be heavy bolters if they are devastators or special sternguard weapons :P http://i51.tinypic.com/9rso5v.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/2gwu87k.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/1z2zixc.jpg (Im really happy with the bullpup bolter ;)) http://i54.tinypic.com/5yajir.jpg (clever head swapping) It should be noted that the above guys will have the same off black color as Ryoto and better effects once they are stripped. Also with regards to the CM http://i56.tinypic.com/2efkvg2.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2743732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 Well now I have entered myself in a local GW's fine cast painting competition, I need to get my entry in by june 26th. I chose the beautiful sternguard sergeant to paint. I will be using the above method I used on my test marine to do the black parts of his armor but I need a recipe for a dark red that doesn't go all the way up to blood red. here is the first WIP, just a krylon black spray coat and hand painted chaos black. http://i52.tinypic.com/21j6a6e.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/f1badu.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2791074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Here are some pics, its a bit late so they are kind of dark, I am using a more unconventional metallics method, using lots of glazes of reds aand browns to kind of warm up the cold metals. I am unsure if I overdid the white highlights this time and does anyone have suggestions on how to make the PF glow? http://i55.tinypic.com/nx2qu8.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/15oz8ns.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/2yzfp7d.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2791674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Well here is some work on him, please tell me if I am doing something horribly wrong :angry:. w/ flash http://i51.tinypic.com/sbj1gx.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/ddo014.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/21edag2.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/ix9vm0.jpg w/o flash http://i54.tinypic.com/2zz3jbc.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/uoi9c.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/4i0s8z.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/9atfnn.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2792828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 First, that Chapter Master is freakin' sweet! Second, I definitely like the finished look on your Sternguard. Not only is it my favorite model but man you did an awesome job on him. From what I can see it seems as though you've really improved your painting skills since you first started this thread. Keep up it up brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2792844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 First, that Chapter Master is freakin' sweet! Second, I definitely like the finished look on your Sternguard. Not only is it my favorite model but man you did an awesome job on him. From what I can see it seems as though you've really improved your painting skills since you first started this thread. Keep up it up brother. this means alot coming from you, I love your T.S. SoM B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2792846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 It looks like your improving a lot. Glad to see it. I remember some of your early posts. My recommendation if your experimenting with black would be to try over a black basecoat, using a mix of 50% Chaos Black and 50% Scorched Brown, using Bleached Bone as your highlight colour. Gray's also work well for the highlights in that mix. For leather I always basecoat Scorched Brown and begin highlighting with Bestial Brown and then adding Bleached Bone or a similar colour to edge to straps, finally I was with scorched brown or devilen mud. The eye effect looks good for a starting point. I would continue to practice it and eventually you'll get the hang of it. I'd recommend watering down your paint when doing your skin as it still looks a tad bit thick. But coming along nicely! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2792862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 It looks like your improving a lot. Glad to see it. I remember some of your early posts. My recommendation if your experimenting with black would be to try over a black basecoat, using a mix of 50% Chaos Black and 50% Scorched Brown, using Bleached Bone as your highlight colour. Gray's also work well for the highlights in that mix. For leather I always basecoat Scorched Brown and begin highlighting with Bestial Brown and then adding Bleached Bone or a similar colour to edge to straps, finally I was with scorched brown or devilen mud. The eye effect looks good for a starting point. I would continue to practice it and eventually you'll get the hang of it. I'd recommend watering down your paint when doing your skin as it still looks a tad bit thick. But coming along nicely! thanks for the tips, I will most definitely try the black recipe, also any thoughts on what color the wreath and bolter strap should be? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2792864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souitenesse Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I love your technique, I think it's turning out very nicely! However, I would like to ask, where is your chapter master model from? He looks gorgeous, is he custom made or is it available for purchase? Keep up the good work, and good luck for the exams B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2792909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 He is actually scratch built, using elongated sm legs, terminator crotch shields and hip pads, red scorpions parts, IW parts and a sword from maxmini. Thanks for the compliments Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2793218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
E. Severus Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Gosh, where did you get those miniguns ?! And your ChM's head ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2793254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 The miniguns are from maxminu as well, the head is from the old IW upgrade kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2793298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 16, 2011 Author Share Posted June 16, 2011 Quick question, are the gradients on the black very noticeable? should I glaze the recesses pure black? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2794683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Hey guys hes about done, though I may need to do more work on his base, is it a good compliment to the model or is it just boring? Should I add blood to the base? http://i54.tinypic.com/20h3amp.jpg http://i54.tinypic.com/123rwqq.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/2lkekwo.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/2v9yu0m.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2795788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Well to me it kind of feels like it lacks depth. Namely because the colours are so similar. The silver and black really. As for the glow on the fist, it needs to be closer to pure white at the source, same with the eyes. Keep up the practice! Oh and one last thing. I don't like the mix of blue, red, and green. I'd pick either green or blue and stick with it :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2795901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 Thank you for your support MCA :),did you mean the silver and black lack depth or the base? Oddly enough I did glaze pure white on the eyes and fist, maybe another glaze is needed. I get what you mean by the combo, I just didnt know what to do with the wreath would have been boring in metallics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225051-termies-general-marine-log/#findComment-2795969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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