Scumgrief Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Recently I have noticed that certain publications have the blood angels shoulder pads painted as red with a black band rather then the all red of the current dex. Is this how they used to look or is it just mistakes of the artist ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebG Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Yea dude, tis the old school way. My old 2nd-3rd ed Angels were all red pads with black trim, with the reverse for the sgt's. It's a shame they dropped it for plain red in my opinion, and it's good to see quite e few forces still marching (or flying as is often our case) to war with these colours! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumgrief Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 I think I may paint mine up like this because it looks way better then the plain red ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I think I may paint mine up like this because it looks way better then the plain red ones. I paint mine that way for the same reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcatus Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 The black trim has always helped balance the BA paint scheme, visually (contrast). I still think GW went to the all red scheme in order to make them appear easier to paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losfer Werds Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think that the 3rd Co still runs with the black trim on the shoulders. Personally I've used it for my 2nd Co as well, but with gold trim for the sergeants instead of the black shoulder with red trim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelOfDeathXIII Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I only joined the Blood Angels with the release of the 5th Edition. Without knowing it I painted my first model like the ones from the 3th edition because I felt black trims would really provide a contrast in the armour.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah the black trims has been around since the 2nd Edition and was official for the BA's. As in every marine except Sgt's had a black trim on a red pad, and Sgt's had black with red trim. I never liked the full red. Being a 2nd Ed Head it just always looked wrong to me. That little bit of black really helps break up the red and define the shape and bulk if the marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Look at Volcatus's sig - see the sarge? THATS old school colour! Nice pic BTW i still have that box under my bed, along with the cardboard ork dread! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2699848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I followed the army in 4th edition rule book, which had black shoulder trims and yellow chest eagles (which I interpret as gold). Fluff wise I assume they have had slightly different colour schemes over the millennia. 4th edition actual shows the new colours in its painting guide, presumably for ease, and it is carried through in 'How to paint Space Marines'. The black trim is much better aesthetically, I think they made a bad call here. I assume the chest eagle changed so that they could have the winged blood drop in company colours. This was the moulded chest emblem of, for example, the two BA metal sergeants. These days it hardly appears. The only plasic torso with it is the one from the Baal Predator, so I can see no reason not to revert to yellow/gold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Im painting mine up with black trim but not sure which to go for on my sergants, the reverse idea is good but which company uses the gold trim and how exactly is this presented, a red pad with a gold trim? (I've only recently started painting blood angels again after doing my word bearer army.. The last blood angels I painted were in 2005/06 around the time when the tyranids were revamped) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Im painting mine up with black trim but not sure which to go for on my sergants, the reverse idea is good but which company uses the gold trim and how exactly is this presented, a red pad with a gold trim? As far as I know there isn't 'officially' any BA company that uses gold trim (or any colour trim) to determine its company number. The company is designated by the colour of the blood drop on the left shoulder pad. The trim always remains black (except sgt's). This does becoume a nuisance for 5th company marines with a black blood drop though with the sgt'sblack shoulder pad. However, you could paint the trim gold and call it a crusade company mark or something. Your army after all. just nothing solid to confirm it in the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 none of them. Company is indicated by the colour of the blood drop on the opposite shoulder to the chapter symbol. Chest eagles used to all be yellow/gold, and veterans in the first co had a skull symbol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Im painting mine up with black trim but not sure which to go for on my sergants, the reverse idea is good but which company uses the gold trim and how exactly is this presented, a red pad with a gold trim?(I've only recently started painting blood angels again after doing my word bearer army.. The last blood angels I painted were in 2005/06 around the time when the tyranids were revamped) As said officially, none use gold trim. I use gold trim on my models for Veterans (Sternguard, Vanguard, Honor Guard) as well as ICs. I like the way the gold looks on the red pad and makes the special units/models stand out a bit (especially since I don't paint the helmet colors different for different types of units). As for sergeants, I just paint them the same as the squad. So Assault squad/tactical squad/dev squad have red pads with black trim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ok thanks for that. Still undecided as to which chapter I'd like to represent as I'd like to read more into the subject (can anyone link me to some info please) and I'm gonna be busy doing my DC a little while anyway which gives me more time to think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Must be in the minority here but I actually prefer the all red trim. Apart from anything else it helps distinguish them from Angels Encarmine, who still have the black trim and the black wings with red blood-drop logo. If you go with the older schemes the only distinction is a slight change in the shape of the wing. On an unrelated note, the Angels Encarmine assault marine in the latest codex has a red helm with a yellow skull. Does this mean they don't use the helmet markings? If so are there any notes on the markings they do use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chris Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 An alternative is one of the successor chapters. Some have the old BA colour scheme, while the Blood-drinkers follow the Codex markings, which would give you BA look but with the varied shoulder trims of the codex companies. I have a vague idea that the ultramarines use gold instead of yellow for fluff reasons. I use gold for special units like the honour guard. It is the no trim at all look which I think looks very unfinished. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I think that the 3rd Co still runs with the black trim on the shoulders. Since no-ones commented I'm sure there's one or two people thinking that guy doesn't know what he's talking about but there is some truth to it: When Mk7 armour was first released back in RT GW made a firm point that chapters had a full parade uniform but would frequently simplify it when on campaign such as dropping the trims - then during 2nd edition the BA were always shown in full parade uniform, then in 3rd edition they dropped the trims from the miniatures however the Index Astartes article specifically showed red pads both with and without trims even going so far as to label as different companies - personally I've always taken that to indicate that the RT fluff was still in effect and that it was up to the individual Captains to decide when to leave the trims off. The Armageddon 3 IA went even further illustrating 2nd Company Tactical & Devastators without but the Assault squad with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225527-blood-angels-shoulder-pads/#findComment-2700535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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