Grand-Redemptor Ezkallon Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I'm looking for some basing advice, not sure how to go about it. If I stick the marine on first, when I try to flock the base I get the flock all over the marine's feet. But they won't stay on if I flock the base first. It might just be the glue I'm using but I have a very hard time getting the flock off their feet once it dries on, and getting it off when it is wet just makes a mess... some advice, and examples would be nice... Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 get your nastiest brush and paint on straight PVA with the model still attatched. be careful not to get it on the feet. i use the GW flock pot and i bury the model to the knees for about the time it takes me to paint the glue onto the next one. then i pull it out, shake it (inside the tub) and flick the edge of the base quite hard to dislodge anything left. if there is anything left on the feet i wait for it to dry rigid and then scrape it off with a sculpting tool (or anything hard) this will wreck your brush!!!! that should work fine. wait till all the model's glue is completely dry before starting basing. wait till the flock is completely set before spaying or painting. i would highly recomend spraying paint over flock as it can be hard to cover by hand. If you are not spraying the model then give the flock a heavy badab black wash first to help wiith coverage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2699505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearden441 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 unfortunately i do not have examples handy, but I can walk you through my process for simple bases: 1. Put together your marine using blu-tac to stick the feet to the base. This will ensure that your model has solid footing. 2. Once the marine's glue is dry, take a pencil and outline the marines feet. 3/ Peel the marine off the base and set aside 4. take white glue and paint it on the base around the feet markings 5. flock as normal 6. paint marine off of the base, i use corks and old paint pots to mount the marine on 7. glue onto the base in the original position of course this is a very simple way to base. i have many other ways that include pinning and more extravagant bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2699508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand-Redemptor Ezkallon Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Don't know whay I didn't think of that... my x-acto knife should work for that... I already have a glue-brush... thanks! though I was under the impression you weren't supposed to paint the flock/grass/snow/ whatever it is supposed to be... ninjaed... you wouldn't happen to have any of those other ways on here would you? I could use a decent base-pinning tutorial... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2699509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 yes you can paint flock, you don't have to but i alsways do. i paint mine black, overbrush dark grey, drybrush lighter grey. makes a nice finish and it bonds all the sand together and turns it into a chesive surface not a load of pieces of grit. i like to do this as if you leave it alone you end up with gravel that, if you scaled it to human size, would be rocks the size of your fist. you shouldn't really paint static grass etc but the sand flock is fine Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2699521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand-Redemptor Ezkallon Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 yeah I sorta meant the grass and stuff... I have yet to find a decent colour for my rocks and stuff though... I'm thinking maybe I'll just do the standard brown, and then make some xeno terrain and stuff, and cover the bases in blood and giblets :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2699529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aki27 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 This is the method I use whenever I base my models. 1: (Optional) Shape excess green stuff onto the bases to create contours. 2: Add a small amount of water of PVA glue and apply it to the base. 3: Dip the base in sand so that it covers the entire base. 4: While wet, wipe away any excess sand from the base's rim with your finger and brush off any sand that is on the model with a small brush. 5: Once the sand is completely dry, water down PVA again until it is like a diluted wash. (Think of diluted milk.) Apply this over the sand to seal it. This will help reduce the sand from from rubbing off when you drybrush. 6: Paint the base. 7: (Optional) Dab slightly watered down PVA glue onto the painted sand and dip it in Static Flock. Another option is to use textured bases from modelling companies like back-2-Basie-ix. All you need to do is pin and glue the model to the base and paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2702844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzap88 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 best advice that I can give is to plan a theme for the bases for the army before you get too far into it. I find to add a little interest it is possible to vary the heights of the mini off the bottom of the base, to get a little more depth and natural feel. For example in my army I have the minis going through a city ruins, so I have some minis climbing up on different levels of flooring as they walk through. Have a look in my sig to see what I mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2703305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The easiest way I've found is to 1. put the model together 2. use something to spread PVA on the whole base. 3. Add super glue to the feet/slot of the model and attach to the base. 4. Wait a couple of seconds so the superglue dries. 5. pour on sand. 6. let it sit overnight so the PVA dries. 7. brush off the excess sand with an old toothbrush. This way I don't have to worry about getting sand all over the feet, or having hard to reach spots under the model where you didn't reach to get PVA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2703334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 What I've always wondered is... how do you base your minis so that they look good on almost any table? That's the biggest reason I haven't based mine, as I don't want to have a bunch of grass bases, and then play on a desert table where they'll look stupid and out of place. Or do most people just do whatever looks good to them, and don't care if it clashes with the board? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2703469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtn Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 What I've always wondered is... how do you base your minis so that they look good on almost any table? That's the biggest reason I haven't based mine, as I don't want to have a bunch of grass bases, and then play on a desert table where they'll look stupid and out of place. Or do most people just do whatever looks good to them, and don't care if it clashes with the board? Personally I don't care if it clashes. I imagine my troops are on a Mars like desert planet, regardless of the green grass table we usually use. I rather have my models look good in themselves, than having them fit on boring green grass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2703770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 My terminators are based on industrial floor and my bikes on mud war trench...did them because I like how it looks, not to blend with the table. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2703787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 What I've always wondered is... how do you base your minis so that they look good on almost any table? That's the biggest reason I haven't based mine, as I don't want to have a bunch of grass bases, and then play on a desert table where they'll look stupid and out of place. Or do most people just do whatever looks good to them, and don't care if it clashes with the board? Bases should accent and contrast the army, be it by color, theme, etc. Besides, you'll never be able to cater to every table you could possibly play on from now until you stop playing with said army. I tend to use super glue (applied carefully with a toothpick) to glue sand (or whatever basing material I am using) to the base, careful not to get any on the feet. Prime. Paint as normal. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2703843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattCrawford Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 My method: 1) Affix model to base 2) Mark out the feet (I usually just paint a bit around them 3) Glue where you know the feet won't be 4) Flock 'n' sand, etc. 5) Prime mini and base 6) Paint each individually 7) Glue mini "bald spots" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225532-basing/#findComment-2704332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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