empty choke Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 complete waste of my money, almost ruined a unit of marines. need other selections any help? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzen Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 this is in the wrong section.. but try the vallejo model colour range or reaper master series paints. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallvictory Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 So how does paint ruin your models? Maybe you can save some money by sharing some details and getting some advice, alot of us use GW paints all the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 hmmmmm.... I've been using GW paints for 3 years now (for as long as I've been in the hobby) and I find them most excellent. Please provide some details and insight about your experience with the product, and your experience in the hobby in general. Are you a golden demon painter who is trying GW paints for the first time? Or are you a first time painter expecting golden demon results? more info please!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Funny that. I have been using GW paints for nigh 18 years...and when something muck up, it is usually not the fault of the paints, but rather the painter... ;-) Regards, Master Ciaphas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Festillius Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Funny that. I have been using GW paints for nigh 18 years...and when something muck up, it is usually not the fault of the paints, but rather the painter... ;-) Regards, Master Ciaphas Don't try and use logic :ph34r: "What can men do against such reckless hate?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sensei Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 For as far as we all know, GW paints are full garbage indeed. Imagine the sheer talent of those winning GD with'em, these guys are mutants ! "Now tell me, why didn't u write anything during your exam ?" "That's not my fault sir, my pen failed to work" "..." Ha ha ha seriously. DS Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Typhon Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 *snip* when something muck up, it is usually not the fault of the paints, but rather the painter... ;-) *snip* Quoted for Truth. It's the same in the case of most tools; a tool is only as good as the person who wields it. Give a world-famous artist fingerpaints and no brushes and they won't do as well as they usually do, give a primary school student world-class artist tools...well, you know where this is going. I've been using GW product (paint, glue AND brushes) in all things to do with my Deathguard (and other armies I've used) for over 15 years, never had problems with them. Yes the consistancy of the paints can sometimes be a bit thick for my liking, but that's what 5-times-filtered tap water brought to just above room temperature is for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I think we have a case of "user error" here- the problem lies between the chair and the miniature/paint brush. :) "My minis turned out like teh suck, so GW paints, which people have been using for decades to produce quite nice miniatures, obviously suck!" Gotta love that sort of sentiment. :ph34r: It is almost guaranteed that you should start off learning the technical skills of painting. Start with the basics- wash and drybrush. Learn different methods for doing both(there is not just one way of doing either). Then go to free hand highlighting to practiced control. Then to freehand painting of emblems/symbols for superior control. As with anything, practice makes perfect(or perfect enough). And for gawd's sake, thin your paints just a tiny bit and paint multiple thin layers rather than paint one thick layer to cover faster because you are impatient. Whether or not some or all of this applies to you, follow the advice and you'll get better results. Lastly, if you can't draw your way out of a paper bag then you might simply not be artistically gifted, meaning you must work hard to learn anything about painting too(but it can be learned). Don't give up. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Some gw paints arent very good that we can agree on (Yellow and desert colours i think) but most of them are very good eg the Purple is just awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamrodMC Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Troll identified. I'll agree with Spacefrisian, though. Sunburst Yellow is ass, Hormagaunt Purple is awesome. Some of the old discontinued colours were amazing, too, like Midnight Blue! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDeath Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 The only GW colour with which i was displeased was the White Sprayprimer because it needs near ideal conditions to be used well. Skull White is also quite annoying because of it's low opacity, but this seems to be a problem that most whites share. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 The only GW colour with which i was displeased was the White Sprayprimer because it needs near ideal conditions to be used well.Skull White is also quite annoying because of it's low opacity, but this seems to be a problem that most whites share. Have you tried hot water for that white spray primer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I've never had problems in general with GW paints. Certain colours are a bit iffy with their coverage, in particular I struggle with Kommandi Khaki and Blazing Orange. But others are really excellent, such as Rotting Flesh or as others have said Hormy Purple. Just make sure you water down and do several layers if they don't cover particularly well, but people should do this anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Except for very bright greens I've found that GW are one of the easier paints to use. They start out thicker than Vallejo paints which allow you to thin them yourself to perfect consistency. They also aren't as rubbery as the P3 line which I find makes blending much easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I've never had problems in general with GW paints. Certain colours are a bit iffy with their coverage, in particular I struggle with Kommandi Khaki and Blazing Orange. But others are really excellent, such as Rotting Flesh or as others have said Hormy Purple. Just make sure you water down and do several layers if they don't cover particularly well, but people should do this anyway. I totally read that wrong. I was thinking... so does that mean the paint is sold rock solid? :P I can say I've never had any problems with GW paints insofar as application is concerned. Even colors like Skull White, Sunburst/Golden Yellow, etc. I find easy to work with, although granted they take a little more work time to build up. In fact, the only issue I have with them is the terrible paint pots; they get progressively worse and worse, and just can't compare in this regard to P3 and moreso Vallejo (those eyedropper paint tubes are amazing and fantastic). The only reason I use GW paints almost exclusively is that the only way I can get any other brands is to order online (makes replacing them a pain). DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine_the_Wolf Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 complete waste of my money, almost ruined a unit of marines. need other selections any help? Bad as you might think the paints are, the only real way they could have"ruined" what you were painting was if you have a cack-handed painting style! I'd love to know at what point the potential ruin of the minis was realised! "Hmm, this looks too thick to me...best clart it on there and see if it ruins me marines!" :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2700984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I've Hormy Purple I totally read that wrong. DV8 me too, though i thought it was excited!! kinda reminds me of the time when i worked in store and an old granny came in and asked for a "Hot Tortoise". there was also the time when toy story was released that i got a phone call asking if i had a 14" woody...... on a more serious note, i've been in this hobby for around 20 years, never had a problem with GW paints - except sunburst yellow.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2701029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 there was also the time when toy story was released that i got a phone call asking if i had a 14" woody...... Please tell me your response was: "Well I'm not one to brag, but..." :P on a more serious note, i've been in this hobby for around 20 years, never had a problem with GW paints - except sunburst yellow.... If you're working on a black basecoat, try starting with Iyanden Darksun, and progressively mixing in Golden and/or Sunrubrst until you get pure yellow. You can even add a bit of white for sharper highlights. On a white basecoat, consider doing the same thing, replacing Iyanden with Vomit Brown. Just keep your paints thin and do lots of layers. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2701052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Black Shadow Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Other paint options: Reaper master series: very good pigment/coverage, come in sets of 3 (shade, base, highlight). I haven't had the chance to pick any RMS paints up yet, but I've heard nothing but good things about them. Privateer Press Formula P3: great paints (my personal favorite line, VGC a close second) with some very different colors than the other ranges. Superior coverage, and some beautiful colors that aren't in the other ranges. Most colors dry with a satin/flat finish much like GW paints. Vallejo game color: very similar color range to GW, paints are thinner out of the bottle but still have good coverage. Most colors dry pretty flat. Vallejo model color: similar body to VGC, but maybe a bit more pigment, different amount of medium, and dries flatter-than-flat. VGC is more durable than VMC since it has more acrylic binder. Rackham paints: much thicker paints. Pigments are coarse in comparison to other mini paint lines, almost like a craft paint, and will dry with some texture. In many cases this is undesirable, but in others it's exactly what you may need. Coat d'Arms - these are the paints that used to be citadel paints in the 80's and 90's. If you ever owned citadel paints with the hexagonal pots, that's these guys. Satin finish, decent coverage. Make-your-own: go to the art store, buy some high-quality artist-grade acrylic paint, inks, medium, etc. and mix your own paints. This is a lot cheaper than buying pre-mixed miniature paints, but also takes more practice and effort. That said, citadel (games workshop) paints are not bad, and it is possible to get a very nice result from using them exclusively. May I suggest that you practice some on some spare miniatures before committing pigment to your game pieces? You can buy job lots of cruddy old minis off of eBay on the cheap, and use them to hone a few simple techniques to make your "good" stuff look nice. The stuff you see in the magazines and on the box covers has been painted by professional artists with years and years of practice and in many cases formal training. You can't expect your first paint job to look like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2701158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 complete waste of my money, almost ruined a unit of marines. need other selections any help? :sweat: Before I'm offering ANY help, I need more info, chief. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2701246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
empty choke Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 sorry guys i was just having painters rage last nite i can never get the GWS to flow the way i want them too, it's usually my reds that do this too me! and i would say im a fairly good painter, i'll post some pictures in the hall of honor tonite, i have found a few reds that i am going to try, and see how they come out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2701599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorisBC Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Red is always an ass colour to try get nice. But I've had nothing but good news from the GW reds. I've found that Skull White isn't as smooth as the others, but that's about it. Oh and the tubs are poo. I've got some colours from back in 1993 that I still use because I can get a really good seal on the lids, but I've also had tubs go bad inside a few months! That's the only thing that Grr's me about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2701763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 The paint in the old tubs was also formulated not to dry as fast as the newer stock had been. Lasts long 'cause it was made that way. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2701934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikel Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 The only GW colour with which i was displeased was the White Sprayprimer because it needs near ideal conditions to be used well.Skull White is also quite annoying because of it's low opacity, but this seems to be a problem that most whites share. Have you tried hot water for that white spray primer? Can you elaborate on this? I found the skull white didn't give a smooth cover like the black does(enough to paint over, but the coat was very runny and came out uneven when it dried), and I don't understand what yer trying to say here, should i boil the can first? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225624-games-workshop-paints/#findComment-2702210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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