Custodian Athiair Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I was looking in the new White Dwarf and i have now seen which of the heavy weapons are which, and i really do not like the new psycannons. They have lost all of their old characteristics, especially that chuncky, vicious looking barrel and have now replace it with something rather wierd :/ what does everybody else think. i know i could just buy the original ones in metal from the GW site, but i don't have that much money. anyway over to you guys Athiair :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I really agree... The termi psycannon feels big and nasty. The GKSS one looks like a big powerdrill :cuss Still, it's plastic, so that wins it over for me! Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2702276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Old Psycannon FTW! New ones are rubbish. What were the designers thinking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2702281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 one thing i did forget to add is that the one on the dreadknight is akin to the original one, with the big heavy duty barrel, i do agree it is plastic which is fantastic, but i wish it was the good one :cuss Athiair :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2702282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagman Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 I completely agree, unfortunately GW is out of the old metal ones and will no longer be producing them. I put an order in for 10, and am getting 0. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2702289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherWasted Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Old Psycannon was a piece of trash. The new Psycannon models actually represent the fact Psycannons use enchanted bolts and fit the functionality of the weapon much more. It is a bolt weapon, not a minature plasma cannon - the new model is more accurate in both it's barrel representation and frame design: for PAGK, the Psycannon looks more like a Heavy Bolter, but for Termies they have still kept a similar frame to the original. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2702298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangamarine Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Yes, I gree I miss the barrel and the curved box shaped design Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2702299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Yeah, the old psycannon had more "sexy" storm bolters and large heads on the PA guys still bother me the most tho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2702421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoneus Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Having only seen pictures, it looks like you could alter the new psycannon pretty easily to look more like the old one. Just chop off the ammo box and flash hider. Then, the rotary-looking part will function as the barrel, being much wider like the old psycannon barrels. At least, that's the theory; I'll have to get my hands on the new plastics to try it out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2703415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHolker Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 My biggest complaint about the new Psycannon is the stats. I was actually considering a compact Paladin army, until I found out they can't shoot further than 24". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2703535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The model designers and sculptors interviewed in the new White Dwarf stated that the new Psycannons and Psilencers were first designed for the Dreadknight and then scaled down to infantry sized versions. Personally I think the psycannon suffered a bit in that transition. If you look at the Heavy Psycannon the Dreadknight is sporting the proportions and ratios look more.... I guess I'd say instinctively natural, compared to the infantry versions. There's more surface area for the details and circuitry to be arranged out between casing and muzzle. That said, I actually like both old and new versions. The old ones had this elegant simplicity. The new ones fit the prevailing 40k aesthetic just fine in my opinion: ornate, baroque, and impractical as hell :P . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2703622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMoon Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 but if you deploy 12 in after one turn of movement your in range. if its the first turn you probly want to run instead of shoot to get to cover and close as quick as possible and you can always deep strike as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2703625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You think that's bad... as cool as Psilencers look.. they're so garbage :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2703631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IraSummers Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I do like the look of the old gun, but the knight holding the old gun just looked off to me. I think their mold was going or something, everything looked pressed back. I do like the look of the new Psycannon gun fine, and it better matches the new fluff of using ammo. The Psislencer model looks AMAZING to me...I just wish they had made the gun at all useful to anything other then playing deamons and then you are just tool tipping. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2703998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew B Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You think that's bad... as cool as Psilencers look.. they're so garbage :) Too bad they didn't switch the names. Totally agree, you have lots of cool looking psilencers that you will most likely never use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou666 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 im tempted to use psilencers as my psycannons, cos they look badass! but then id get loads of :) at tournaments and stuff, and i dont want that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 5 metal Psycannon for £7.20 is decent to be honest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custodian Athiair Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 5 metal Psycannon for £7.20 is decent to be honest where from????????????????? thanks and You think that's bad... as cool as Psilencers look.. they're so garbage :lol: why are they so poor? they sound like an assault cannon... of course i only know that they fire 6 shots, apart from that i know nothing about them. so any info for me would be great. thanks they look great though with three rotary barrels, and they each look the size of the psycannon barrel. it looks like a machine made for killing stuff anyway any information abuot these will be welcomed with a big thank you! Athiair :down: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 why are they so poor? they sound like an assault cannon... Are you serious? They shoot S4 AP- rounds. GARBAGE Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 They aren't that bad. If you're not taking Psycannon Bolts, then every Psilencer in effect tripples the shooting that mini can do. Sure they lose the AP5 a Storm Bolter has, but that's a fair trade off for potentially three times the wounds cuased. The main problem with Psilencers is they compete with Psycannons, which are so far superior it's unreal. There's no competition, and I doubt I'll ever use a Psilencer. Even the Gattling version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Go to Games-Workshop.com Go to the Warhammer 40,000 Armies Grey Knights page and check Bitz. They are in there! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMoon Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 i think there great. if you want volume of fire 4 in a squad is a LOT of shots...and how do you beat marines??? you make them have to make saves. so if your 4 silencers and then the rest of the squad fire that could be a boat load of saves a squad would have to make and you could kill a LOT of marines that way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 i think there great. if you want volume of fire 4 in a squad is a LOT of shots...and how do you beat marines??? you make them have to make saves. so if your 4 silencers and then the rest of the squad fire that could be a boat load of saves a squad would have to make and you could kill a LOT of marines that way. Sure, if you don't to move or shoot with them. They're heavy, that alone makes them subpar compared to Psycannons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adir Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Agree... I don't care for the new look at all. Hearing that they were basically scaled down from the DK explains a lot to me. I sneaked in a UK psycannon bits order after the US site pulled them but before the UK site did... check today and the UK site no longer has them either. The psilencer does look awesome... but are just not anywhere close to worth it on anything except a terminator. Then again, 4 S7 shots vs 6 S4.... not sure thats even a question. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Oh wow.... No longer available? That's stupid Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225750-new-psycannons/#findComment-2704139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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