The Emperor's Champion Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I'm a pretty damn good diplomat when I need to be. Except Guilliman was not a good diplomat. And this thread is kinda annoys me i don't know why. Actually, he was an extraordinary diplomat (and thusly the reason why the Ultramarines are pretty much THE diplomats amongst the Space Marines). Only Sanguinius might've been better. To quote myself from a couple weeks ago: He'd be far more likely to be wondering when the hell Ultramarines got so talkative. Don't they generally have a bit of a condescending manner to anyone not-an-Ultramarine? No. Not even slightly. In fact, they're well known as some of the greatest leaders amongst the Deathwatch because they're incredibly diplomatic and get along great with most other Chapters. That's why there are more Ultramarines Watch-Captains than Watch-Captains from any other Chapter. Most Marines are so caught up in being part of their Chapter that they don't easily accept the practices and beliefs of Marines from other Chapters; and that's why the Deathwatch is generally made up of Marines who are the LEAST fanatically obsessed with their Chapter's ways (AKA the Marines who don't mind to much being separated from their Chapter and who are open-minded enough to work with others). But even with these Marines it can be hard to get a Dark Angel and a Space Wolf to fight side by side, or to get a Black Templar to follow a Librarian into battle. The Marines who CAN make it happen are the ones who end up becoming the Watch-Captains. It's the same reason Ultramarines leaders are so often elected to be the overall commanders when multiple Chapters gather together and form a "crusade army" (like Sicarius leading Marines from over 30 Chapters against the Tau, Calgar being elected leader of the 5 Chapters taking part in the Corinthian Crusade and, most recently, Sicarius being elected the supreme commander of all Astartes forces during the Medusa V Schism). How else do you explain that while Horus, the Lion, and other Primarchs would conquer worlds and leave angry populations in their wake, only Guilliman and the Ultramarines rapidly converted worlds to willingly join the Imperium, and where they DID have to defeat a world they'd take the time to stabilize it's infrastructure and leave them GLAD they were conquered. Why else would so many worlds across the Imperium feel some degree of loyalty to Guilliman and the Ultramarines even 10,000 years after the Great Crusade? Do you really think Guilliman built Ultramar, a realm of unmatched peace, prosperity, loyalty, and contentment by being un-diplomatic? Even the tribes of Macragge who his people had been at war with for ages...he went out and within two months turned them to allies....and he was just a teenager. It wasn't for nothing that he grew up as the son of Macragge's beloved Battle-King. He mastered everything the wisest men on Macragge could teach him and, obviously, the things that make a great leader were among them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Descendant Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Let's not turn this into a "which primarch was the best" thread, gents. It's meant to be an opportunity for members to express their reasons for identity with the major characters of the heresy. There have been some great answers so far, it's awesome how honest some of you are being and how much thought you're putting in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I'm a pretty damn good diplomat when I need to be. Except Guilliman was not a good diplomat. And this thread is kinda annoys me i don't know why. Maybe it annoys you because people pick their favourite Primarchs rather than the Primarch they are most closely attuned to? Of course some people have gone out and provided reasons why they are most like a Primarch, which is gravy. Personally, I'm not similar to any of the Primarchs: I have the social appetite of Russ. I'm as passionate as Sanguinius. I'm as humble as Dorn. I can be quick to anger just like Russ. I appreciate order and as organised as Guilliman. I'm a leader and diplomate like Horus. I'm as meticulus as Fulgrim. I spell as good as Angron. Etc Etc. Of course I have plenty of darker moral and social traits (no one is perfect) but I'll leave them out for now... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I'm a pretty damn good diplomat when I need to be. Except Guilliman was not a good diplomat. And this thread is kinda annoys me i don't know why. Maybe it annoys you because people pick their favourite Primarchs rather than the Primarch they are most closely attuned to? Of course some people have gone out and provided reasons why they are most like a Primarch, which is gravy. Did I? :P Personally, I'm not similar to any of the Primarchs: I have the social appetite of Russ. I'm as passionate as Sanguinius. I'm as humble as Dorn. I can be quick to anger just like Russ. I appreciate order and as organised as Guilliman. I'm a leader and diplomate like Horus. I'm as meticulus as Fulgrim. I spell as good as Angron. Etc Etc. Don't you mean as quick to anger as Angron and you spell as good as Russ? :P Of course I have plenty of darker moral and social traits (no one is perfect) but I'll leave them out for now... ;) Aww, c'mon! Share :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Augustine Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Rogal Dorn. I am stubborn as two mules, loyal to a fault, Proud but humble about it, I make a good leader but tend to prefer being the right hand man, and I have an unhealthy habit of taking the weight of conflicts on my own shoulders as well as harshly punishing myself for perceived failures to the point where in the past I have actually inflicted pain on myself (not cutting just doing stuff that hurt like punching hard surfaces) in order to punish myself for what I saw as failures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang of Morkai Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Probably Russ but my sneaky part might make me lean towards Corax as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostLegion Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 bah. while it's kind of fun to look at this type of question for yourself, it's almost more fun to see what others think....but that's besides the point for my part, I see elements of three of the primarchs in myself...the Lion (only makes sense to me), Magnus (have to love an emphasis on learning for the sake of learning), and Dorn (stoicism at its finest, with a hint of chained aggression and a high degree of focus for the problems at hand) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I'm a pretty damn good diplomat when I need to be. Except Guilliman was not a good diplomat. And this thread is kinda annoys me i don't know why. Maybe it annoys you because people pick their favourite Primarchs rather than the Primarch they are most closely attuned to? Of course some people have gone out and provided reasons why they are most like a Primarch, which is gravy. Did I? :) Oh I didn't mean it as critically, rather as an evaluation as to why someone may have felt the way they did towards this topic. After all, I went on to do the same thing myself! After all, many of us have an affinity to a Primarch because we share similar traits. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2704998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I'm a pretty damn good diplomat when I need to be. Except Guilliman was not a good diplomat. And this thread is kinda annoys me i don't know why. Maybe it annoys you because people pick their favourite Primarchs rather than the Primarch they are most closely attuned to? Of course some people have gone out and provided reasons why they are most like a Primarch, which is gravy. Did I? :) Oh I didn't mean it as critically, rather as an evaluation as to why someone may have felt the way they did towards this topic. After all, I went on to do the same thing myself! After all, many of us have an affinity to a Primarch because we share similar traits. :) Haha, fair enough :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I guess it might be annoying as well if people don't take as a given that each person's answer comes with an unspoken disclaimer: "But in saying this, I realise I'm comparing myself to a fictional being of near unimaginable genius, majesty and mystery. Doing so seriously would be a bit delusional and conceited, but a) we're talking about which one out of the Primarchs we're most like, relatively speaking and b ) it's all a bit of harmless fun. " ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 That too ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradill Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I'd say Dorn. Failures weigh heavily on my shoulders and I do tend to punish myself for them (maybe not to the extent of a pain glove though, I'm a bit more well-adjusted than that). I have a problem with loyalty, or rather the ferocity of the loyalty I feel to people who have earned it, I will defend such people to the ends of the earth. Also I'm built like a bear and would make a brilliant praetorian, nobody gets past me. Nobody. Paradill Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Of Dorn Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 A mix of Dorn and Magnus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have elements of several primarchs, my personality seems to be pretty contradictory at times. I beleive in disapline - mental and physical. I am effecient. I am deeply proud person. I am pretty blunt and will speak my mind. I seek knowledge almost constantly. I am relentless. I am arrogant. I have a massive ego. If i cannot beat a person hands down i will seek to bring them down through other measures, no matter how extreme - I will win eventually. I strive to be better than everyone around me. I anger very very very quickly. I am unforgiving. I hold grudges, and i will always follow them up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 @Pulse - I am a Doctor in History and i recently did a peice alongside Dr. Adrian Goldsworthy on Julius Caesar, we focussed on his personality and the person rather than his achievements - and you my friend, from the list above, sound almost exactly the same as Caesar himself, minus a few details! Be that good or bad! :tu: @The Emperor's Champion - I liked your personality breakdown hugely, you are definately a son of Guilliman! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulawful Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have the social appetite of Russ.I'm as passionate as Sanguinius. I'm as humble as Dorn. I can be quick to anger just like Russ. I appreciate order and as organised as Guilliman. I'm a leader and diplomate like Horus. I'm as meticulus as Fulgrim. I spell as good as Angron. Etc Etc. Of course I have plenty of darker moral and social traits (no one is perfect) but I'll leave them out for now... :tu: So you're saying that each of the Primarchs embodies some aspect of you? Holy crap, you're the Emperor. [bows] [kneels] [kneels and bows] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodred0114 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Magnus.... not even a question there, I enjoy learning and there is nothing forbidden when it comes to knowledge one only needs learn where to look and how to ask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I agree with that statement bloodred0114. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I want to be a good one but usually everything goes to hell.... Night Haunter, Lion or Lorgar I think, maybe Magnus.... meh, I'll probably be 2nd or 11th Primarch Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 @Pulse - I am a Doctor in History and i recently did a peice alongside Dr. Adrian Goldsworthy on Julius Caesar, we focussed on his personality and the person rather than his achievements - and you my friend, from the list above, sound almost exactly the same as Caesar himself, minus a few details! Be that good or bad! :P From a History professional, i will take that as a compliament. I find Julius Caesar fascinating! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Like a few others, I don't find myself like any one primarch. I have intense faith, like Lorgar. Mine is based on the evidence given to me, however, and if I did not have that evidence I probably wouldn't believe. I also tend not to show off my faith, although I will let you know its there. I believe in knowledge, slightly differently from Magnus. Myself, I pursue the truth as opposed to just plain knowledge, there is some knowledge that is just useless, but the truth is like DNA, telling the story of each situation. Like Fulgrim, I am a perfectionist. This probably has to do with both of the above - faith without deeds is worthless ( ;) )and a lie is never worth pursuing. Both of these things require perfection in acheiving, and while I doubt I will ever actually achieve that perfection, it is well worth the effort. Corax, last but not least, is also somewhat like me. Generally, I prefer similar methods of doing things as him. I dislike bluntness, favoring subtlety, and I am much more of an introvert than an extrovert, though those who I count as my brothers and friends I am extremely loyal to. Or that could just be my ego talking B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 interesting thread! at my best id say im rogal dorn (or possibly guilliman) but at my worst im probably perturabo... or maybe im the lion? (im stubborn, efficient, intelligent, organised and introverted-it also takes me a while to open up to people but once i know them i will defend them till my last breath) this is harder than i thought! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewlay Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 TBH I'm probably closer to Alpharus then any of the others. Or am I?!? Who knows? I know. Or do I? Mwhahahahaha Damn, that sort of gave it away :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Targhost Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Dorn here! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2705588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkchild130 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 bah. while it's kind of fun to look at this type of question for yourself, it's almost more fun to see what others think....but that's besides the point Well In that case I change my answer from Dorn to Curze, as my friends think I'm a nasty sinister F***er and I like to fight a lot. Darkchild Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/225768-which-primarch-are-you/page/2/#findComment-2706198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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