Micky B Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Please excuse my ignorance here. Genuine help required. I am a big fan of the Grey Knights models; but don`t want to paint them up in grey/ silver but want their chapter purpose to remain. Is there a 'legitimate' reason that I could paint the models in a different colour scheme such as a fledgling chapter/ affiliate chapter etc. I know I could do a "counts as" army but I was wondering if there was any way I could do it within the fluff. Any help would be appreciated Thanks in advance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowThyEnemy Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 old school grey knights used to be black. only other legitimate color i know of fluff-wise. ive seen red though, doesn't look too bad. just didnt feel right to me :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman_woo Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Strict fluff wize not really however I would direct you here GK quest enclave If your army was some manner of "Deamonquest" group or something simmilar that has a particular divergent purpose you might be able to come up with a justification. Perhaps they were lost in the warp and went their own way (not necessarily heritical but circumstances could perhaps have split them off from the rest somehow), or maybe in chasing down a particular deamon they have addopted some ritualistic colour to help them (each greater Deamon tends to have its own quirks about banishing rituals etc. its not a massive stretch that being a particlar colour might give the GK a symbolic advantage, or enrage/tempt the deamon or something else suitable usefull. Perhaps they were on a espcially long campaign with some bloodangels who got heroicly slaughtered by a particular deamon, perhaps the GK would be so impressed with the BA's heroic sacrifice that they would paint their armour red for the rest of the campaign as a mark of respect to them and a big up yours to the deamon. Anything you do will be a bit of a stretch to the fluff (they are silver as its supposed to be the colour of polished but unpainted ceramite which they find symbolically fitting to their purpose) but there are ways to make it fly if you really want it to. What kind of colours were you thinking off? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
killersquid Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 To be fair, it's your army. Nothing is stopping you from painting it anyway you want. I don't even think you need justification to paint the army something other then silver. If anything, it could be based off the heraldy of the commanding Grandmaster/Brother captain, or the army's highly attuned sense of visual aesthetics found the monochromatic silver scheme to be quite dreary and needed some sprucing up. I find that non-silver schemes tend to look better as well, something about pure silver that I find bothersome. For example, I painted my Grey Knights orange and blue and there's been no problem with that. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/killersquid/warhammer/Grey%20Knights/IMG_0168.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Kezef Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 There is always the Death Wing precedent. The Dark Angels changed the colour of their entire 1st Company based on the actions of one Marine. If you don't like the fluff, re-write or change to suit, you paid for themodels so paint them however you want. If you get hassle from the fluff-SS, remind them it's a game, it's not real and back away slowly, don't make eye contact wih them. The men in white coats will be around to pick them up soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 How about a group of Grey Knights who have sworn to track and kill a particular (very powerful or elusive) Greater Daemon, and have painted their armor a certain color until that quest is completed? Like, "Goregutskillerbob murdered so-and-so, and for this we paint our armor with the colors of his personal heraldry to remind us of our vow to avenge him against this fiend, spurning the pride of polished ceramite until it is accomplished"? With the personal heraldry angle you could justify any colors you like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 old school grey knights used to be black. Thats mid-school (3rd edition), before that they were mostly silver but if memory serves the first colour info given for them (Genestealer suppliment for Space Hulk - they had a full army list in Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness but if memory serves it was completely devoid of info regarding their actual colour) actually said they wore 'baroque gold armour'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowThyEnemy Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 id have to say at least 2nd edition. if you recall, C:DH was 3rd edition :D. but same thing, id say anything white, red, black, gold or silver (or any combination) could easily be justified based upon the current codex color scheme and the above backgrounds Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 old school grey knights used to be black. Thats mid-school (3rd edition), before that they were mostly silver but if memory serves the first colour info given for them (Genestealer suppliment for Space Hulk - they had a full army list in Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness but if memory serves it was completely devoid of info regarding their actual colour) actually said they wore 'baroque gold armour'. 2nd ed: they were black. 3rd ed - Present: they are silver/grey as they "do not paint their armor". 5E has Purifiers paint their helmets and pauldrons white. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamrodMC Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 As has been mentioned before, they're your miniatures. You paid for them, you paint them however you please. How about just grey? It's not silver, but it still matches their name and they'll still look close to the originals without you even having to "justify" it to the fluff nuts. Think Relictors-style grey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 This might be stretching it a bit, and I haven't seen the new GK codex, but maybe create an Exorcists 1st Company. They were created by the Inquisition to hunt Daemons, and have worked closely with the Knights before. It would make sense (to me, lol) that their 1st Company Veterans would have access to some serious anti-daemon equipment, which could be a decent excuse to have equipment like Aegis Suits, blessed weapons and the like. Just avoid stuff that is extremley GK specific, such as the Dreadknight, and you should be ok. Just coughing up ideas here, please don't execute me GK players... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2708985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky B Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Thanks Guys. All replies have been gratefully received and I think I will work them all in to my "fluff". Love that idea about a group styled to 'go after' one particular demon who wronged the company.... Still haven`t decided upon an exact colour scheme, but I'm sure something will spring out at me when I get hold of the models. Roll on tomorrow.... Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2709005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Man I Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 This might be stretching it a bit, and I haven't seen the new GK codex, but maybe create an Exorcists 1st Company. They were created by the Inquisition to hunt Daemons, and have worked closely with the Knights before. It would make sense (to me, lol) that their 1st Company Veterans would have access to some serious anti-daemon equipment, which could be a decent excuse to have equipment like Aegis Suits, blessed weapons and the like. Just avoid stuff that is extremley GK specific, such as the Dreadknight, and you should be ok. Just coughing up ideas here, please don't execute me GK players... :P Actually thats a really good idea. They really would fit well within the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2709076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 grey knights - surely then GREY would be appropriate. fluff wise they have unpainted ceramite - but i don't actually recall anything actually saying what colour bare ceramite actually is. i've always felt that as a sort of ceramic-mtallic hybrid thingy it would be a dull almost metallic grey - not the shiny silver we see in WD...... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2709082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicatus Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 I direct you to here :P Tada That's the colour scheme I use for my 'Knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2709135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Adeptus Battlegrey is actually great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2709223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastadventurer Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Been playing since 2ed, mine are black with appropriate highlights, and I always get a positive reaction when I put them on the table. Then again, now that there are plastic models (sweet!), I'm going to get a different reaction; "Those are all metal?!?!". In any case, it's your army, paint it how you want! ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2709379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 2nd ed: they were black. Have you got a source for that? I was playing for most of 2nd edition and the only black grey knights I've ever seen/heard of are in the 3rd edition GK/Deathwatch IA article, prior to that the only minis I've ever seen were silver: http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/khromash/grey_k01.jpghttp://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/khromash/grey_k02.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2709601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 2nd ed: they were black. Have you got a source for that? I was playing for most of 2nd edition and the only black grey knights I've ever seen/heard of are in the 3rd edition GK/Deathwatch IA article, prior to that the only minis I've ever seen were silver: http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/khromash/grey_k01.jpghttp://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r155/khromash/grey_k02.jpg Yep, the oldest information has the Grey Knights with the Silver and Gold as shown in Vodunius' pics above. In the 3rd Edition era Index Astartes article, the Grey Knights were shown with a new armour scheme that is either Black, or perhaps Charcoal Grey: I liked the 3rd Edition version, and used it with my Grey Knights: Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2712515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgrim Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 http://www.postimage.org/aV11Ptki.jpg I tried this colour scheme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2712550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Q- Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Maybe Ceremite is like Stucco... You can get it mixed to any color with powders and dyes so that the stucco is the same color all the way through and requires no painting. :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2712629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTAG Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 I was considering painting my Paladins in gold with Silver accents. Since they're separate from the usual 8 brother hoods anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2712637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I'm going to go with a nice black with some sheen in particular places. Had the name "Obsidian Knights" so obsidian colors they will be! I think the black will do justice, old fluff wise, and aesthetically. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2719669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimz Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 That black and gold looks decent Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226245-grey-knight-colours/#findComment-2719940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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