maverik_girl Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 but doesn't Logan Grimnar technically already has his own "Rune Knights" in his company? as in The Company of the Great Wolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoll Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 well technically yeah all rune priest are in his company and are just borrowed by others Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 BOOM! there you go, that's a good enough fluff explanation for Jonny Wolf right there! a special task force of Rune Priest sanctioned by Grimnar himself. As for dreadknights.. lets just say since back in the Great Crusades, many legions used robots. Wolves kept theirs at the Fang as sentries and guards the catacombs of the Fang. Who's to say, a Rune Priest was like "hey... why not?" there you go Jonny Wolf! done deal :cuss your welcome haha jk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I second the rune priest strike force idea. After all, how big is your list going to be? While most space marine armies in this game represent a company sized force or larger, the actual troop numbers on the field usually number around platoon level or even smaller (assuming a norm between 1500 - 2000 points, thats what I see usually anyway). Instead of this being a full company of warp wielding psykers, its just however many models you include. That should solve GM's "number of fensrisian psykers" problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I could see the Rune Priest Strike Force, but the Dreadknights ruin it for me. I just can't find any logical explanation for them. Now if we were trying to Orks to Knights, then I could accept them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I could see the Rune Priest Strike Force, but the Dreadknights ruin it for me. I just can't find any logical explanation for them. Now if we were trying to Orks to Knights, then I could accept them. Could make a story about some Iron Priest losing a drinking contest with a Rune Priest and as a result agrees to build him some huge daemon killing machine. It works if you imagine both of them falling down drunk as they try to decide what the loser should do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Mav was the one who suggested the strike force to me, a reason why I mentioned it here while I was reading the entire thread. I mean how else would our Rune Priest better themselves in both strength of mind and of might? One could say that after the events at armaggeddon, Logan decided to do a special task force full of his own Rune Priest. Its better to trust in your warriors than those who abuse and do harm onto the innocent. As for the dreadknight, I already mentioned a fluff reason for it! Mav showed me the old rogue trader rule book. It's called Legio Cybernetica! and didn't they use to sell mech for Space Marines back in rogue trader days? I've seen the old citadel catalogs, Mav just showed me, so why not! each legion had them. Most got destroyed in the great crusade. But the few remaining of the thousand sons robots even helped with the first battle of the fang. You can just say that since wolves would rather fight themselves, the VI legions Legio Cybernetica, was instead tasked to guard the catacombs of the Fang, until a Rune Priest decided to use one for their strike force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Just something to note that can or cannot be included. Rune Priests and the VI Legion in general have a pretty unique relationship to the Warp. Think about it. We have talismans and charms that we believe in so much, it helps us better in combat. We have an above average psychic defense with our runic weapons, not psychic hoods. We have psychic defenses via runic armour and a wolf tail hanging off our belt. We have an inherent defense against Chaos in our generic make-up. So fluffwise, a strikeforce of Rune Priest that was commanded to be formed by Logan, would be leap years ahead any other chapter towards being akin to a GK strkeforce. Set aside to fully commit to battling Chaos, they would excel more then any other chapter would be capable. It makes me think of the Tyranic War Veterans of the Ultramarines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Just quickly, if no GK has ever fallen to Chaos, and GK mind wipe everyone, who would be left to know about it? I dont buy teh none shall fall lore, i do however accept they are particularily resistant to corruption and also that any showing signs of taint would be cleansed with a bolt to the head. Also, wouldnt the GK sort of prove some radical Inquisitors opinions about using chaos to fight chaos? And woudlnt they try to bolster ties with the Relictors? The mind boggles....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Just quickly, if no GK has ever fallen to Chaos, and GK mind wipe everyone, who would be left to know about it? I dont buy teh none shall fall lore, i do however accept they are particularily resistant to corruption and also that any showing signs of taint would be cleansed with a bolt to the head. Also, wouldnt the GK sort of prove some radical Inquisitors opinions about using chaos to fight chaos? And woudlnt they try to bolster ties with the Relictors? The mind boggles....... The problem with Chaos is you usually don't know about it till its too late. Subtle manipulations by Tzeentch. Whispers from Slaanesh. The other two are more obvious but I hope you can see my point. Chaos isn't always in your face. The GKs are always trying to find ways to fight Chaos, even if it means using Chaos against itself. What's there to say that Tzeentch isn't manipulating them by making sure that they get the help they need when it suits him. Chaos isn't just a physical force to fight but can get you anywhere it wants. Anyone arrogant enough to believe otherwise is a good candidate for a bit of Slaanesh grooming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 *shrugs* There is no reason, besides matt ward, why the Grey Knights couldnt have proven completely resistant to chaos. Heck, the sisters are close with only one known to have fallen in 6000 years. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 *shrugs* There is no reason, besides matt ward, why the Grey Knights couldnt have proven completely resistant to chaos. Heck, the sisters are close with only one known to have fallen in 6000 years. And that one was a closet hooker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLord Digby Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Grey Knights have always been the puppets of the Inquisition and do their dirty work. Destroying a whole planet to eradicate a daemon outbreak and all taint of it is nothing to an inquisitor and the Grey Knights just follow blindly in the belief that their actions are for the good of the Imperium. Space Wolves on the other hand will make up their own mind, for themselves. Tell the Inquisitor where he can go and stick his exterminatus and go tear the throat from the enemy and protect the bystanders as much as possible. The two fluffs couldn't combine. It's like West Ham and Millwall supporters. There's no way they could be put together without a fight breaking out. LOL, nicely said although being a gooner myself i would have said Arsenal and Tottenham :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 @ Grey Mage - why? Because I'm in love with the Sons of Russ but a little bored with the SW Codex- that's basically it in a nutshell. @ Mav-girl - I'm actually going to put the Great Wolf's company markings on all of them as you correctly pointed out, all the Rune Priests are assigned to the Great Company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 @ Grey Mage - why? Because I'm in love with the Sons of Russ but a little bored with the SW Codex- that's basically it in a nutshell. Because, of all the forces out there they have the highest standards when it comes to purity of mind and soul. They have the most training in specificly resisting the demonic. They have the bet equipment in protection from attacks on your essence. And because it was always hinted that their gene-seed came from the emperor himself, wich gives anyone a leg up. Though I was always curious what that meant for the Custodes. Are they not included in the 'only gks have never fallen' statement, due to their unique nature and secrecy? Did one fall? If so... how? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 custodes are not marines. so they dont count. they are breed not made for example . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Where exactly is this "Rune Knight" stuff coming from? I don't remember reading anything about Grimnar having his own psyker posse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Where exactly is this "Rune Knight" stuff coming from? I don't remember reading anything about Grimnar having his own psyker posse. read Post #101 and down... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Where exactly is this "Rune Knight" stuff coming from? I don't remember reading anything about Grimnar having his own psyker posse. It was a name that was kicked around to call them... However, Rune Priests, Wolf Priests, Iron Priests, Scouts and Dreads all fall under the Great Wolf's Company and are loaned out to the other companies as needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2722767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 LOL, nicely said although being a gooner myself i would have said Arsenal and Tottenham :) You two are far more civil ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2723107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 *shrugs* There is no reason, besides matt ward, why the Grey Knights couldnt have proven completely resistant to chaos. Heck, the sisters are close with only one known to have fallen in 6000 years. Not any more. Read the first bit of the famed 'Bathe in the blood of dead sisters!' bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2723420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 *shrugs* There is no reason, besides matt ward, why the Grey Knights couldnt have proven completely resistant to chaos. Heck, the sisters are close with only one known to have fallen in 6000 years. Not any more. Read the first bit of the famed 'Bathe in the blood of dead sisters!' bit. What part of 'besides matt ward' dont you understand? Seriously, the mans a menace and I dont want to derail this thread with a rant about what an idiot the man is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2723445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Yes, yes. One year/decade/century, the tyranny shall end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2723449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Yes, yes. One year/decade/century, the tyranny shall end. Wow. Lets see if this actually works. Matt Ward is the Vandire of 40k, and shortly before the sisters of battle rejoin the world as a 5th/6th edition codex he shall be removed from office and his stain on the fluff-world put to the flame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2723466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Yes, yes. One year/decade/century, the tyranny shall end. Wow. Lets see if this actually works. Matt Ward is the Vandire of 40k, and shortly before the sisters of battle rejoin the world as a 5th/6th edition codex he shall be removed from office and his stain on the fluff-world put to the flame. iIrc, it was the Templars who lead the assault on Terra to end Vandire's tyranny. Don't worry brothers, the Sons of Dorn will save humanity for you, once again :D His rules and fluff realisation onto the table are good. But boy oh boy, does his fluff writing cater to barely- and pre-teens. I want my fantasy to be somewhat believable, ya? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226252-gk-codex-and-space-wolves/page/5/#findComment-2723480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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