Psychic Hoods and Aegis

[MontyBob]

OK, might be a nabbish question.

 

The aegis reduces the ld of any model attempting to cast a psychic power on GK by 1 (or 4 near a dread).

 

If an attempt was made to nullify the power would that be on the ld used to cast (i.e. 6) or the psyker's base LD stat?

[Gentlemanloser]

The Aegis has no effect on PH rolls.

 

It only effects enemies Psychic Test rolls.

[Chairman_woo]

Yes I dont belive it is suggested anywhere that a psychic hood is a phychic power for any game purposes.

[ValourousHeart]

And aegis says that it only works on powers that target a unit with aegis, lots of powers will effect GK without actually targeting them.

[Grey Mage]

Yes I dont belive it is suggested anywhere that a psychic hood is a phychic power for any game purposes.

Unless they changed the wording significantly in the new GK book not a single psychic defense in the game is itself a psychic power.

 

I always thought that was odd though.

[Brother Valerius]

You guys seem to be interpreting the question as if the Aegis affects the psychic hood directly (asking if it makes your opponent's use of a hood more difficult), but I think the question is thus. If a psychic power is cast at a unit with the Aegis, and you attempt to nullify it with a psychic hood, does your opponent roll with his natural leadership in the opposed roll, or does he roll with the leadership score he used to make the original psychic test?

[Gentlemanloser]

That's what we've answered.

 

Natural Leadership, as the opposed PH roll isn't a Psychic Power. But use of Wargear.

 

The Aegis has no efect on the PH roll.

[Brother Valerius]

It isn't necessarily a use of wargear. When a psyker without a psychic hood casts a power, and you use the hood on it, they get an opposed roll even though they don't have a hood. I don't know that I'd classify it as a psychic power, per se, but it isn't that big of an inference to say that the same leadership score applies. I'm just wondering if there's a solid rule one way or the other.

[Chairman_woo]

It isn't necessarily a use of wargear. When a psyker without a psychic hood casts a power, and you use the hood on it, they get an opposed roll even though they don't have a hood. I don't know that I'd classify it as a psychic power, per se, but it isn't that big of an inference to say that the same leadership score applies. I'm just wondering if there's a solid rule one way or the other.

 

I very strongly suspect that there are no grounds anywhere in the rules to count a pshychic hood as anything but wargear with a specificly defined effect. The aegis will only ever effect the enemys attempt to cast the power as I read it, the Hood roll off to try and nulify it appear to be a separate event.

 

If prescident to the contrary can be found of cource that is a different matter...

[Gentlemanloser]

The Aegis specifies it effects the enemies Psychic Test. The PH specifies it is used after a sucessful Psychic Test.

 

The two are totally seperate rolls.

[Justcar]

If the psychic hood was a psychic power, then it could be nullified by other psychic hoods! This would lead to a never ending cycle of madness! MADNESS!