gogmagog Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 So what now for Garro? In collected Visions it is mentioned that 8 marines were presented to the Emperor,SPOILER so in Legion of One there are 4 and back to Earth they must go! so what about the remaining numbers,any clues?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artein Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 It was said that Garro visited Prospero and Signus Prime while recruiting. Add one Blood Angel. And a Space Wolf.... or a Thousand Son.... or possibly both? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2712559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithior Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Que Grey Knights... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2712672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 So what now for Garro? In collected Visions it is mentioned that 8 marines were presented to the Emperor,SPOILER so in Legion of One there are 4 and back to Earth they must go! so what about the remaining numbers,any clues?? I wonder if the 8 were retconned to 4 or perhaps the others didn't make the trip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2712677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Dragon Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 It was mentioned again in the new Grey Knights codex that 8 marines and 4 humans were presented to the emperor. So as the most recently released fluff I'm pretty confident 8 still stands. Out of curiosity who were the 4 that have already been mentioned? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2712754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorkle Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Garro, Rubio (Ultramarines Battle Psyker), Some loyalist World Eater and Loken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2712760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Qruze as well, so that's five. I didn't take the reference to Prospero and Signis Prime as meaning Garro had personally been there recruiting. I took them simply as time landmarks to provide a sense of the time that had passed since Eisenstein. They were the significant battles to that point of the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2713363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The four mentioned by snorkle, plus Qruze, plus maybe a Blood Angel, a Thousand Son and a Space Wolf makes 8. Though Aegnor said that he didnt think Garro went to Prospero, and a Thousand Son is unlikely because of the gene-seed mutating at the end of A Thousand Sons. btw the spoiler is from A Thousand Sons ^_^ Sooo who knows who the 8 marines were, is it possible Valdor joined the Grey Knights as a founding member? He wasnt heard of after the HH so far, even though it would be nicer for him to die :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2713870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well according to the new Grey Knights dex, some wee fellow named Janus rocked so much that he was made the 1st ever Supreme Grand Master. No mention of his Legion but from the 8 we have, as previously mentioned Nathaniel Garro Iacton Qruze Varren Rubio Garviel Loken I think it safe to assume the survivors from the Eisenstein would have been put forward for recruitment as "regular" Knights. I also don't think it totally implausible for a Thousand Son marine to be recruited. The fact they have an iffy gene-seed wouldn't make too much difference as the Knights had their own gene-seed engineered for them prior to founding. That's been stated many times and not just in the new codex. Actually the notion of a Thousand Son appeals to me a lot as someone would need to provide the basis for all the warp-lore they've accumulated let alone use in present day 40K. If we accept that, that totals 6 so 2 more to find. Personally, if I had to guess, I'd opt for the Imperial Fists (fanatically loyal to the Emperor), Dark Angels (well versed in secrecy) or Word Bearers (would have gleaned at least some knowledge of the daemonic) Hopefully someone won't take it upon themselves to totally screw around with this although whether Mat Ward left out details of Garro and his recruits intentionally or merely because he's Mat Ward is entirely left to the whim of time and future authors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2713965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Isn't there a HH novel coming up set on Terra that contains some marines of dubious loyalties? Perhaps one or more of them. I'm hoping for an Alpha Legionaire, thus taking us one step closer to the hidden truth in 40k that every army is secretly AL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Sorry, double post Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Adam Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I'm thinking this has more to do with starting the inquisition than the ordo malleus, I feel like them being grey nights is presumptuous considering the framework for their indoctrination and psychic scrubbing doesn't exist yet. I'm sure this is crucial to the grey knights eventual creation, but again, it makes more sense that these guys are going to form the foundation for the inquisition and will never see the first grey knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurdian31 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The first Grand Master's name was Janus (the two faced god?) so he's probably AL. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmagog Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Janus,two headed, Cerberus the two headed dog guarding the underworld? But dont the Grey Knights change thier name when they become grey knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsight Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 There is no names in the GK dex but it also says that they had veteran marines in addition to the 8 founding members to help train the raw recruits so a thousand son would be handy for the sorcery side of thing, that said they also didn't join Horus to start with they where kind of forced too since Russ sacked their planet at the Big E's orders. so salt to taste Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurgling6688 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I think its jumping the gun a bit to assume that Qruze is part of Malcador's list. Just because he escaped with Garro and returned to Terra with him doesn't mean hes a good fit for the Inquisition/Grey Knights. He could just be hanging around Terra with the Fists, or advising the big E on Horus. He was pretty old if I remember correctly. I personally don't think he is part of the list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannick Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I am inclined to agree with Nurgling. Qruze is very much an 'old timer' and I suspect his wisdom will be used rather than his physicality, which makes me think he would be involved, but not as a GK. The HH authors are bound to throw a twist or two in to the GK arena as it is the proverbial open book, to an extent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2714885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Sangha Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 SPOILER ALERT forgot how to use the spoiler tags, my apologies... Im positive that one of them will be an Iron Warrior who will be joining soon enough, and maybe we will get a Emperors Children marine in there, HERE COMES THE SPOILER since in the next Garro audio book they are on Istvan 3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2715006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegnor Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Janus,two headed, Cerberus the two headed dog guarding the underworld? But dont the Grey Knights change thier name when they become grey knights. Cerberus had three heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2715691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Just a guess, but I saw this posted over on warseer to do with the Age of Darkness Heresy novel due out next months, post from Reds8n. I put the part I think stand out in bold. But please do not highlight this if you do not want Age of Darkness spoil for you. Age of Darkness being a short story novel of the heresy 1: Rules of Engagement by Graham McNeill 2: Liars' Due by James Swallows 3: Forgotten Sons by Nick kyme 4: The last remembrancer by John French 5: Rebirth by Chris Wraight 6: The face of treachery by Gav Thorpe 7: Little Horus by Dan Abnett 8: The Iron Within by Rob Sanders 9: Savage Weapons by Aaron Dembski-Bowden Reds8n post, again do not highlight if you do not want it spoil. Just though this might be intresting to the topic. The story concerns a squad of 1ksons returning to Prospero, having been one of the squads on a ship in orbit who Magnus ordered to flee. They return to find the planet lifeless and everything has been destroyed and cast down. They search for survivors and try and work out who attacked them. They find some clues and piece together who the attackers were, but they themselves then come under attack, presumably from pickets/guards left behind to deal with just such a situation. Most of the squad are killed and their leader is captured, drugged so he can't use his powers and then brutally interrogated. .. we then learn exactly who it is who is there, and why... .. all of which is very good and saying more here would really IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2715824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siege40k Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Just as an FYI the GK's take new names upon their completion of training. That being said this "Janus" fellow, could easily be any of the aforementioned individuals. Also, since I want to keep up with Garro, aside from the audio books, do I need to go pickup collected visions? (not sure if that is the name of the novel). Siege Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2715868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsight Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Collected Visions doesn't really have a lot on Garro except for some very nice pictures also to be a Grey knight aren't psyhic powers required, so most like the Garro story line is about the inquisition more than the Grey Knights Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226491-what-now-for-garro/#findComment-2716102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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