Dark_Crozius Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hi guys. Heres the second part of my doubles tourny army- thought i'd put it on a seperate thread for all those who are un intrested in savage wolf marines and preffer a more elegant marine. The Swan knights Assault squad sgt http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206291_10150147657955658_712655657_7077645_3863718_n.jpg Rest of the assault marines http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206751_10150147658020658_712655657_7077646_284524_n.jpg http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/218032_10150147658075658_712655657_7077647_1239862_n.jpg http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/217503_10150147658180658_712655657_7077649_6725139_n.jpg And wip termie http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205684_10150147658305658_712655657_7077651_7369042_n.jpg As always- all comments welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Crozius Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hi guys. Heres the second part of my doubles tourny army- thought i'd put it on a seperate thread for all those who are un intrested in savage wolf marines and preffer a more elegant marine. The Swan knights Assault squad sgt http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206291_10150147657955658_712655657_7077645_3863718_n.jpg Rest of the assault marines http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206751_10150147658020658_712655657_7077646_284524_n.jpg http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/218032_10150147658075658_712655657_7077647_1239862_n.jpg http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/217503_10150147658180658_712655657_7077649_6725139_n.jpg And wip termie http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205684_10150147658305658_712655657_7077651_7369042_n.jpg As always- all comments welcome oops- sorry about the double thread post- my bad. Can you delete one please mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Dragon Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Love the idea and the paint job you have done but I'm not so fussed on the shoulder pad as a helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well the minis are well painted so I guess you're serious about this. I have to say though that I think the theme doesn't really fit to the warrior space knight archetype, you might get away with it for an Eldar harlequin war troupe, but for marines I say this is a definate no. Totally subjective of course, but dance & marines are for me not a great fit together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I actually really like this idea. In a way very victorian, especaily the guy with the full face mask made from the shoulder pad. Also like the very gosthly effect of the armour. I know its meant to be a swan colour, but thats my take on it. Looking foward to seeing more. BTW, you know you've posted this twice right? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Crozius Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Yeah- kinnda messed up posting. Hoping the mods can delete one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I can see how a couple of the people on here might see this as a joke, but I'd love to see some fluff for these guys. A surgical ballet of death is still a ballet :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyen Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Except for the dancers on the packs this would seem to me like a valid knightly order... after all there were the Knights of the Swan or whatever in the Lord of the Rings that didn't show up in the movies and Ludwig the Second of Germany was known as the Swan Prince. Anyway as for a paint scheme I like it. It looks like a haunting contrast of black and white. Hope to see more :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Yeah, without the dancers I could actually take these completely seriously. Neat either way, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 how bout now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrum Vinco Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 the one on the left looks like it is farting fire, although the minis are nice (really digging the helm shoulder pad) I'm not sure the danceing-singy-ripping your heart out and stabbing you realy mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogan Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 What strikes me most is that the composition of pyramid head here really does work! Sure, proportions are stretched even further, but on the other hand, GK have shoe-box-sized double-barreld boltguns mounted on their wrists - with a giant magazine to make sure no daemon'll go unharmed. This guy is really interesting; all the wingy stuff gives him an all-new look. Very well done! Looking forward to see more. However, the terminator with the wings just looks like a guy wearing a fairy costume. Sorry. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Crozius Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hey- cheers for the comments thus far. Probibly should of mentioned it before but these guys do have a background- the're fallen Blood Angels. They basicaly worship Slaanesh and are obssessed with ideals of perfection and beauty (hense the highly detailed armour on standard assault marines). Anyone who has seen the movie Black swan should get the whole 'fall' aspects of these guys as well as why they have the name 'Swan knights' Also heres wip Storm Raven http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205453_10150148081340658_712655657_7079999_6616793_n.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Hey- cheers for the comments thus far. Probibly should of mentioned it before but these guys do have a background- the're fallen Blood Angels. They basicaly worship Slaanesh and are obssessed with ideals of perfection and beauty (hense the highly detailed armour on standard assault marines). Anyone who has seen the movie Black swan should get the whole 'fall' aspects of these guys as well as why they have the name 'Swan knights' See, I got all of that and then you painted stick-ballerinas on their jump packs. I'd advise picking one theme, either ballet or swans and stick to it. The best parts of these models are the 'avian' elements so I think that's probably the direction you should take. You don't need to paint every part of the fluff onto your minis, that's what the fluff is for. Also, Knights of the Swan? Worth investigating before you paint an entire army! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Crozius Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Cool- thanks for the info mate. Although as far as picking a theme goes the theme has already been chosen. The name Swan knights is purely a reffrence to Black swan. I thought calling them Black swans was too on the nose and also liked the way people hear the name and assume they are 'good guys' (like the imperium does) then you look alittle closer and realise how far they are falling. I think that will be alittle more obvious when you see the libirian (basing it on sigvald) Still if you think it's still not working- i still apreciate hearing how you think i can make it work. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Swan Knights is a good name, the swan theme is cool, feels tragic and medieval. It's the tutus. Scrap those and it gets a lot better. Scrap the dancers entirely and it's excellent. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 i think the shoulderpadface works actually, makes it look like one of those overdecorated helmets medieval knights would wear, although i'm not sold on the upsode down blood drop it, when some freehand would go nicely there hope you don't mind me blatantly ripping off using that idea as inspiration, as it's a great idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I am loving the winged helmet! Although I agree with servakiller about the blood drop. Perhaps shave it down and make a correctly positioned one with green stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Still if you think it's still not working- i still apreciate hearing how you think i can make it work. I'm with Octavulg, you can reference something without having to physically represent it on the minis. I personally would take the bird features of the models and go to town on them, as you have been doing already. The fall and references to Black Swan really need to go into the fluff, the character, beliefs and traits of your chapter. Make them live and breathe the theme, but I think it doesn't physically belong on the models because it's a very effeminate theme and one that doesn't lend itself to marines, they have neither the poise nor grace, though I guess they would be agile enough to throw some ballet shapes! :D = My 2 Pence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKHaZZ13 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 but I think it doesn't physically belong on the models because it's a very effeminate theme and one that doesn't lend itself to marines, they have neither the poise nor grace, though I guess they would be agile enough to throw some ballet shapes! :D Emperors Children?I'd say they have that effminate kind of edge to them, especially lucius (were talkin pre/heresey era...none of the post business) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrum Vinco Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 They basicaly worship Slaanesh and are obssessed with ideals of perfection and beauty (hense the highly detailed armour on standard assault marines). Anyone who has seen the movie Black swan should get the whole 'fall' aspects of these guys as well as why they have the name 'Swan knights' okay, that goes a long way to sooth concerns that I and a couple of other people had. hope to see more on the fluff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseDaMoose Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I really just agree with most people here. These guys are acutally really dope, but the stick ballerinas just ruin it completely. It's silly, and the freehanding really pulls it down. Keep up the great work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogan Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 These guys are acutally really dope, but the stick ballerinas just ruin it completely. It's silly, and the freehanding really pulls it down. Sorry, but I disagree. It's a very different take on heraldry and ornaments, but then again, Black Templars display christian symbols :-) To my mind, these ballerinas are an expression of passion, speed and decadence, though scaled down to fit the miniature size. Perhaps getting rid of the ballett association could be the key to regard it as some sort of psychological warfare or charms - just like cavemen painted stick people, too. Hope I could help. :-) Btw - usually I'd be the first to say "no" to such a seemingly whacky-theme army - but these guys have something VERY special to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viray Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Wonderfully done, especially the first mini. As to the upside down Blood Angels' symbol, since they're fallen Blood Angels, can't it be seen as an appropriate way to mock a heritage they no longer honor? I'd think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee265 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I like these they are awsome and scream I am your death. Also I like the dancing-killing figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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