Servallier Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 So, my plan of making some sororitas being put on hold until GW makes some plastics of them, i've decided to start up a marine army (this will be my...third, i think) The plan here is to make a knightly order-themed army, based rather heavily around arthurian myth, and, as such, will have a rather deep focus on the Grail imagery, which means i'm going to be bits-ordering a fair few blood angels shoulderpads with the grail symbol to go on the important folk (everyone else will have to make do with my sloppy freehand attempts) Colour Scheme Focusing on this knightly order theme, every single model (and i do mean that) will be getting his own individual heraldry, the left shoulderpad (white in the picture above) will be taken up by this coat of arms, while the red shoulder will have a golden grail Current plans for the force include: heavy mechanisation, every unit that can take a transport vehicle gets one (lots and lots of rhinos... gods i'm going to regret that) heavy close combat focus (vanguard vets with relic blades and power weapons, TH/SS termies, every vetsarge gets a power weapon etc) "Trebuchet" wing (Ironclad dread and vindicator) The 'knightly' theme will be quite heavy, so expect to see lots of brettonian bitz (namely the knight helmets on the captain/chapter master/terminators, little shields on squad commanders that show the squad's heraldry alongside the personal heraldry of the squad leader, larger shields on the tanks etc) as well as Black Templar parts. I plan on each model being highly individual, so the templar crosses are perfectly acceptable ^^ (besides, it fits in with the name) Also, expect to see a few Sanguinary Guard parts, particularly with the command squad, as i do like the models, and with a bit of tweaking, they'll be perfectly acceptable as knightly folk That's all for now, expect to see some prototypes cropping up over the next few days as and when i finish making them, until then... Servallier out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molloch Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Sounds very cool to me ;) looking forward to seing the models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2715703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
onipunk Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 The Blood Angels plastics have quite a few bits with chalices and grails on them, maybe you could incorporate them into your iconography. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2715714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 Thanks for the responses ^^ @Molloch: First prototype (sternguard sarge) will be going up as soon as i remember where i put my SD card @Dark Link: That's something i fully intended to do ^^, i've put in a bits order for 10 grailly shoulderpads from a bitz site, and intend to use the Sanguinary Guard as the command squad I've also decided to include Legion of the Damned as a group of death/relic-focused knightly people, some generalised fluff on this chapter will be going up as soon as i figure out a good format, until then Servallier out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2715760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 So, i promised protoypey pictures, here you go First up is the Sternguard Sergeant, with crotch-shield ready for the heraldry of his squad http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/rezekihellstorm/Project%20Grail/SAM_0007.jpg Next up is a tactical sergeant, made from the remains of one of the times i sculpted a few tabards onto some marines, with extra plumage http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/rezekihellstorm/Project%20Grail/SAM_0009.jpg amazing how the camera picks up EVERYTHING And finally, the nearly complete Captain Aldric, Captain of the first company and something of a Blood Knight in the way he approaches combat (Read: runs at it, screaming with rage), still some things to go on him, but he's almost good to go http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/rezekihellstorm/Project%20Grail/SAM_0001.jpg http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/rezekihellstorm/Project%20Grail/SAM_0002.jpg http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/rezekihellstorm/Project%20Grail/SAM_0004.jpg http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee347/rezekihellstorm/Project%20Grail/SAM_0005.jpg C&C gratefully accepted, let me know what you all think guys ^^ Servallier out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2716634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Tough crowd, well, have an update anyway Myrdden, the leader of both the librarium and the chaplaincy of the Grail Templars. It is his solemn duty to see to the relics and extensive library of the chapter, as well as to assign the rare suits of terminator armour and the Relic Guard. A stern fellow with a reputation for silence unusual in a chapter known for being unusually friendly (for space marines, that is, they will still remove your skull from your body if you look at them funny) http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/SAM_0011.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/SAM_0012.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/SAM_0013.jpg C&C welcome, and strongly encouraged, pretty please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 B&C is always a tough crowd, there's just too much competition. Don't be discouraged though. I really like Aldric (pose and combination of parts), though there's not much you can do wrong with Sang Guard bits ^^ I think most people (including me) are just waiting on how well you do the halved scheme, which will look awesome if done right. I'll definitely keep an eye on this thread EDIT: The pic of Myrdden didn't load before. He looks nice, though still a bit on the chaotic side. Getting rid of the rivets on the leg armor could help making him look more loyalist and less heretic. Also, the book on the leg looks a bit random. What's it attached to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I like the librarian and sternguard sergeant, not too big on the captain or the other sarge. The captain because of too much BA stuff and the sarge because the plumage isnt very knightly IMO. But I like the scheme and I want to see the libby and sergeant in those colors! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacekeeper Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm really digging that captain, especially the helmet. Also like what you did with his legs, I never liked the prancing around look some of the jump pack legs gave. What did you use to make the staff head on the Librarian-chaplain guy, looks very good. Can't wait to see these guys painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrum Vinco Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I dunno what some of you guys are saying, the poise of the captin really brings the image of him swirling around in melee, cutting and stabbing fresh enemys as he walks over the bodies of those he has slain. That model is litterly one of my favorite models now. btw: Do you mind if I make a copy? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchbox Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I really like the captain awesome pose. Not too fussed by the librarian though. Just curious at to which codex you will be using for this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Thanks for the comments so far guys, i'll just address a few things Nither Aldric, nor Myrdden is finished yet, Myrdden has since gained a servo-skull familiar and they are both getting a few details as and when i get round to them, Myr will be getting de-rivited later Myrdden's head is from the Grey Knight Terminator sprue, which i shall be using to make my TH/SS assault terminators (after they have been de-psychic-hooded), this sprue is an absolute delight in terms of things that can be played with on it. Aldric and his crew will be (apart from the company champion) all made from Sanguinary Guard parts, although the rest of the command squad will be somewhat less...sanguinary. A certain amount of blood-angelness will always be lurking about due to the fact that i am using a load of blood angel shoulderpads for the chalices, but it will be getting tempered by a mix of normal marine bitz and BT parts, as well as some brettonian knight bitz here and there. the CC himself will be a modded EC @Astrum Vinco: Thanks, and go for it mate @matchbox: going with the standard marine codex for these fellows Paint job will be going up as soon as i've clobbered together a sacrificial victim brave volunteer to test it on, i'll probably go from a white basecoat, still, burn that bridge when i get to it, keep the comments going, they keep me motivated until next time, Servallier out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorion Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Gotta say I like Aldric's pose, very knight looking. Can't wait to see them painted up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2723508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew J Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Really loving Aldric. Same as everyone else on the painting, cant wait to see it. I am also looking forward to the whole army together at some point. I am sure it will look great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2724666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Good evening all, i have tasty, delicious updates for you well, just the one really, but it's a very delicious one, the start of the paintjob on the sacrificial victim brave volunteer, so you can see what the basic contrast will eventually be. There's still a ways to go yet, but a journey of a thousand miles and all that nonsense http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/SAM_0018.jpg The head, chest eagle, head and shoulder trims will get a coat of black, and the red and grey will be washed/highlighted etc Also, i may well make a shrike stand-in soon, with said shrike weilding dual power lances, opinions? Servallier out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2724707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrum Vinco Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Wouldn't lances be a bit too long/unweildly to use when you have two? Also I can't imagine a good-looking pose with two lances, I think it would be a better idea to stick to more normal weapons the lances. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2724753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 the plan is to have him floating/leaping off something, with the sanguinary guard wings and either a "Look at me, aren't i noble" or a "Haha, i charge thee" pose Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2724784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrum Vinco Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 still... I think that you might have to have the lances shortened, because they are still very long for a model on foot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2725016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Two lances would be as hard to pose with as Lightning Claws. Sometimes, it's better with just one. If you do have two lances, you can have him floating, holding one lance aloft, while the other points down at some victim. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2725120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 Updates for you So i've been working at a snails pace on this project, i know, i'm sorry D:, but now i have gotten a big-box-o'bits back from a mate who's house i'd left them at, i have the motivation, and requisite parts, to get the ball rolling on this project So, first up, here's the first tactical marine in this army http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/IMG_0053-1.jpg http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/IMG_0052-1.jpg (Apologies for the less than stellar photos, my camera's gone walkabout and i'm relying on my phone for pictures) i'm going for as much individuality as i possibly can in terms of poses in this army, which will involve some cutting and reposing of legs etc Next up is Chapter Master Abel, still thinking of a backstory for this fellow, he's mostly just big really... http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/IMG_0056.jpg C&C, as ever, greatly appreciated, until next time Servallier out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2729360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Your conversions and posing are beautiful, very nice :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2730239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/SAM_0011.jpg I like the pose of this fella, he looks beefy as a Terminator-clad warrior should be. His face however, reminds me of a friend's uncle who would scowl, tilt his head, and almost shout "HUH!? SPEAK UP!!" even when nobody was in the room... Next up is Chapter Master Abel, still thinking of a backstory for this fellow, he's mostly just big really...http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m258/despoyler/project%20grail/IMG_0056.jpg This looks very cool as well and that termie shoulder pad really makes him look buff. For the waist, I would recommend adding something to it. Pouches, grenades, even a scabbard to make it look like he doesn't have a 'slim figure'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2730253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servallier Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Thanks for the replies ^^ @hushrong: Hehe... "Git off me lawn ye dern pesky xenos!" On a serious note, thanks for pointing that out on the chapter master. He does already have an extra sword (the sheathed one you get with the newer catachans) which alleviates the hourglass figure on one side in RL, i'll stick a couple of pouches on the other side, thanks for the heads up ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2730266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrum Vinco Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 The Grand Master is made of pure win. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2732644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly_bear Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I really like the idea of different parts and the flour you'll Be getting on to..... Be watching this.......keep up the good work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226681-the-grail-templars/#findComment-2732748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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