synapse Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 EDIT: due to a recent reshuffle of my PB folders pics in the first 2 pages of this thread are no longer visible. you can click the link in my sig for more pics, check out the more recent posts on this thread or click this link to access my howling griffons folder of my PB account. well after a long hiatus i've decided to get back to some truescaling. now my world eaters are mostly done (for the time being at least) ive decided to turn my hand to something different - howling griffons. ive decided on a slightly more realistic scale on them, though the truescaling process is pretty much the same it was for the world eaters (to those who remember) - termie legs, gs torso and termie arms and shoulder pads. i only intend on making a 5-man display unit for the time being; trying my hand at more detailed sculpting than the world eaters and as good a paint job as i can muster on them (hopefully, after over a year away from my brushes ill be able to get back on the saddle so-to-speak), though more on that later once the squad is done. i originally had the idea for the howling griffons before the world eaters, but the marine army idea evolved into a truescale army, which then became death guard and then became world eaters before i even paitned anything green! so the army's been gestating for some time. i always wanted to painted them up in a slightly knightly theme - tabards, purity seals, though i also wanted them to be techy; with lots of equipment, pouches etc, as though they were an army that had been crusading for a long time and were in the field, with battle damage dirt and so on. when IA9 came out i read their fluff, and it seemed to match what i had in mind. so i was set. i started the models a few days ago, working on them at a time - doing some GS work on one as the GS stage on the previous model was drying. some models are in need of parts that i havent received yet so stand unfinished. the plan, as i said above is for 5 models, each on a curved base though i might add some other models if im happy with the end result (character model, possibly a librarian). so here are wip pics of the models: first up is a scale shot of one of the models superimposed on da vinci's vitruvian man, to try and convicne myself that the scale is decent on the models. now i know many will argue that marine anatomy is not exactly proportionate to that of an unaltered human, though im happy enough with the pic to not be bothered. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/vitruvian.jpg first model: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3098.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3099.jpg this has become the defacto sergeant for the unit and is a pretty good example of the type of natural poses im looking for in these - nothing forced and more at ease than in the midst of battle. banner bearer: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3124.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3125.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3129.jpg on this guy you can see more of the pouches and details and some closer shots of the GS work on the torso - this time using brown stuff rather than GS as i was trying to see if id be able to better scult armour with it (i tends to hold 'sharp' detail a bit better than normal gs). im stuff unsure regarding the banner - whether to paint it as a glorified chapter symbol or as an actual scene. ideas are welcome! plasma gunner: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3127.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3118.jpg another example of the type of pose im trying to do. the empty hand will be filled with a pointing hand once the part arrives (next few days i hope). ive since reduced his torso slightly since taking these pics as i thought it was too big compared with the others (particularly the banner guy). since having taken the pics ive removed the piping on the arms as i thought they made them look too much like terminators. and a transfer sheet i printed ready for the painting: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/howling%20griffons/HPIM3123.jpg hope you like the work on these guys so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Nice work, quite clean and well proportioned. Question: What are you using for cabling? It looks like it's cast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 not sure if i can plug urls thoughi got them from one of those companies that makes resin bases and such -they make lead piping in 3 different thicknesses. as theyre lead i find them more useful to guitar string as they can easily be bent into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SincaiN Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Very nice man .. you scupting skills are top notch and I like the look of the slung weapons .. props! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrum Vinco Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 looks great, can we get a pic with them next to a normal ig for scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Nice work mate and great to see you back! ^_^ Look forward to seeing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Very nice looking marines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 *gasp* Synapse is back! *does a little dance* Great to see you back here, man. Everything looks mighty fine for now. These have a totally different feel than the World Eaters, but they are still awesome. The only thing I'm not sure about is the rope on the first Marine. I tried Scout accessories on normal Marines and Termies, too, but I removed it because it looked out of place. Why would Marines of that size need ropes like that? It makes sense on Scouts inside the setting, but not so much on PA marines of that size. I would also slighty change the angle of the powerfist on the sergeant. It looks very stiff and deliberately (sic?) held at that precise angle, which doesn't help to convey the relaxed look you are going for. So yeah, happy your back, subscribed ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester_prince Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 When will games workshop learn that true scale marines are so cool looking? One of these days, hopefully when the marines get a new box of tac marine sculpts, I hope for them to make a switch, because these bad boys look so damn impressive compared to games workshops "toy soldiers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewlay Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 The Vitruvian man really worked, thats one of the most accurate True Scaling I've ever seen. Well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legio Draconis Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Kudos brother those look sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 :lol: thanks for the comments everyone; im actually really enjoying making these - my fave part of any modelling project is playing around with bitz and trying to come up with a cool and original but, more importantly, realistic pose; whichi think is why i like amrines so much - they just have so many parts to choose from that youre spoilt for choice. i started assembling the 4th model and had a bit of a problem with one of the arms so will likely end up scratch-building it, or at least a part of it. pics when its closer to completion! looks great, can we get a pic with them next to a normal ig for scale? ill add one in the next update, though the marine will liekly be too big :P The only thing I'm not sure about is the rope on the first Marine. I tried Scout accessories on normal Marines and Termies, too, but I removed it because it looked out of place. Why would Marines of that size need ropes like that? It makes sense on Scouts inside the setting, but not so much on PA marines of that size. hmmm i see what you mean - i doubt even steel cable of that thinness will support a marine :P *dons thinking cap* um... well... general purpose stuff. no marine should be without his terran army knife and cable. I would also slighty change the angle of the powerfist on the sergeant. It looks very stiff and deliberately (sic?) held at that precise angle, which doesn't help to convey the relaxed look you are going for. after looking at the pic i can see what youmean though im pretty sure its th angle of the picture - the sargeant model is meant to be striding and it doesnt really show in the pic. ill try another angle when i take new pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silent Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Wow, they look great! And Howling Griffons to boot... I'll be keeping tabs on this. Am I right in thinking the metal cabling is from Dragon Forge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 some more pics: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM3145.jpg as per request; a blurry scale shot comparing two of the marines with a guardsman. actually the size difference isnt as bad as i thought it was going to be - result! the marine on the right is the latest addition to the squad: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM3146.jpghttp://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM3147.jpg the left arm was difficult to get just the way i wanted so i ended up GSing the top half. the lion head on the right shoulder pad is the start of a cloak that ill add tomorrow once the torso has dried. after a rough start im quite pleased with the end result and think he fits in with the rest of the unit... now onto the last guy then i can start with last details and then paint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Great size comparison, very accurate as well i think to the fluff. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Oh my! Love true scaling. You sir have inspired me to get back to working on my true scale goodness. I'll be watching. Mr.Malevolent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 im glad both the poses and the scale are going down so well; i actually think that these are the best ones ive made in terms of scale and posing, as well. so fingers crossed i can finish them off well :P quick update with the weapon ill be using on the 5th model: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM3150.jpg its probably going to be dug into the earth with his right arm resting on it, though cant start work yes as im waiting for a box of termies to arrive so i can use the legs, though ive started work on a torso which ill try to cast for any future models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephrael Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Synapse, it's good to see you back here and making more true scale goodness. I have a question, do you take commissions? I would love to build a squad of true scale marines and don't feel up to the task of sculpting the torsos. The legs I have no problems with but I would rather have someone who knows what they are doing make parts for me instead of frustrating myself on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 Synapse, it's good to see you back here and making more true scale goodness. I have a question, do you take commissions? I would love to build a squad of true scale marines and don't feel up to the task of sculpting the torsos. The legs I have no problems with but I would rather have someone who knows what they are doing make parts for me instead of frustrating myself on them. at the moment i dont really have enough time to dedicate to commissions. what little time i have ie decided to spend on my own things as this is the first thing im doing in ages, though if i find the time to do commissions (and in your case, if i do make a master for a chest and cast it up), ill let you know... so, the last guy is now standing as one piece (still missing a lot of GS work), but at least i can show you what he looks like: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM3151.jpg still left to do is some GS work on the legs and mostly in the joints between armour plates,and some sanding. and a group shot: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM3158.jpg quite pleased with them ranked up together. also, after a long look through the chapters list i came across the mentor legion/mentors, which jogged my memory about their fluff, and i came up with the idea of making an IG special ops unit led by a mentor legionnaire with funky tech. maybe a future project :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 nice work mate :D a little criticism about the chainsword though. the area in the circle looks like the chain is gonna jump off if the sword is running. i think you should green stuff a transition that resembles the upper side of the blade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 well spotted - i just removed the last tooth and will add some PC to make it look a bit better, thanks :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicced Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 well spotted - i just removed the last tooth and will add some PC to make it look a bit better, thanks :D then i'm convinced it'll look ace :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Great looking group shot mate, loving the poses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Damn but these are awesome. Can't wait to see them painted....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synapse Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 nice to see people like the poses as mich as i do; i think thats the part i enjoy most about converting; fiddling around with bits and GS and coming up with cool poses so some more progress on the marines, and theyre getting close to completion: http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x15/voropohaiah/HPIM3160.jpg added some tabards to two of the marines (coincidentially, theyre both the bare-headed marines. hope this and the similar poses wont make them appear too identical...) and i also started the cloak on the guy with the lion-head on his shoulder. ill take pics of that once its closer to completion (want to wait for the milliput base to dry before i add some milliput/gs folds to it. other than that i just need to finish the hand on the guy on the left (hand holding onto helmet) as well as the top of his greaves, and i think theyre done. might add afew more pouches/purity seals if i find decent places to fit them, and ill call them a day and start painting :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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