ChaosPhoenix Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Hi there, I don't know, if you follow Beasts of War. I usually do. I've enjoyed Johns painting videos and the army weeks. It's giving me something to watch while I'm painting. Is anyone else following it? To be honest, I don't like it this time. It gives a wrong impression of the army and they get a lot of rules wrong. How do you like it? Another thing is, they talk about Grey Knights like a close combat only army. I still think, Grey Knights are more flexible. Moving, Shooting, Moving more. Do you see Grey Knights as close combat only? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Nearly forgot about this. Did enjoy their 'Sons of Sanguinius' week last year when the BA codex rolled out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosPhoenix Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 Nearly forgot about this. Did enjoy their 'Sons of Sanguinius' week last year when the BA codex rolled out. Yeah same here ^_^. Although they've got to work on their homophobia :P. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmande Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I guess I'll give the first video a try... *three minutes in* "If you play a shooting game with Grey Knights, you will lose; your best bet is to get them into close combat as quickly as possible." Well so much for that. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucku Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Yeah, it seems to me they missed the point on several key items. Str 5 Storm Bolters ROCK, for example. The Warding Stave ROCKs as well (and is more than a 'stick', it's a full-fledged Nemesis Force Weapon). But I still enjoy the reviews... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Psycho Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Some of the stuff they put up there cracks me up, like when the guy that supposedly plays historical painted a Warlord Games plastic german in grey (field grey is a greyish green and vallejo makes it in the model color line, which he was using) or when the 40k guy assembled the BA furioso librarian with a magna grapple (he couldn't figure out why it did fit right on the libby sarcophagus) and kept calling the frag cannon a "fang cannon" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I've been watching their videos all this week, and I have to say that for a bunch of guys that got the codex early and have supposedly been analyzing it for the "cheese" options, they've been getting a lot of basics wrong. I don't mean just in terms of what's effective/tactics, but in terms of basic rules. One that particularly stood out to me was one of the guys talking about how Hammerhand and Daemon Hammers = Str 9 when the book explicitly says the Hammerhand bonus is factored in before other mods! The other one that's really been bugging me is how they repeatedly say Psilencers wound everything on 4+. Or how they think you can stick Psybolt Ammunition on Hurricane Bolters and still move around full speed blasting with them when the Str 5 makes them stop being Defensive Weapons. Now, I usually enjoy the BoW videos, and I watch them more for the enthusiasm for the hobby they display than for meaningful rules breakdown and analysis. I don't think it's ever bad to get more opinions and viewpoints on things, but I must say that their Grey Knight coverage has been way off base so far and incredibly misleading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsloth Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I had a quick look at the HQ review and .. yeah .. they dont appear very informed. Funny though :( Still, its a young codex, it'll take a while before it's all figured out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oiad Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Yep, incorrect facts all over. Yet as misinforming as it is you'll quickly realise that these are more helpful for providing alternative perspectives and, of course the larks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joasht Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I do enjoy the video for entertainment value (it makes great company for when I'm doing some modelling :rolleyes:) but.....yeah. I'm a little saddened about the numerous mistakes they've made and that I actually know more of the rules off the top of my head than them with their notes, preparation, codex and Ipads in front of them. (and the newer bald guy seems slightly confrontational, I'm not sure if its intentional/just for fun, but its slightly irritating to be honest) But all that said I always like it when someone plays the devil's advocate and gives suggestions against the grain, since it gives me a chance to view it from a side untainted by bias and reason it out myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/226745-beasts-of-war-grey-knight-week/#findComment-2716660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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