A Primarch Theory...

[Iron Lord]

In regards to invisibility it's constantly talked about but I have yet to see any actual published document inferring it to be true.

 

Codex Imperialis (2nd ed rulebook with stats for units from all the races) mentions that "some of the Primarchs had powers that do not survive among the Space Marines, such as flight and invisibility".

 

In A Thousand Sons, Magnus, confronting Mortarion's Deathshroud, demands that they tell their master to show himself- he knows he's there- within 49 paces (7X7)- and Mortarion appears out of a shadowy area.

[Lord_Caerolion]

The thought occured to me while I read the conversation between Dorn and Malcador that if it were allowed the two "missing" legions could be summoned if and when it were allowed by the Emperor. This suggested to me that perhaps these two primarchs rather than being dead are in stasis somewhere due to their supposed transgressions. I originally thought their respective legions may also be in stasis but the information presented in TFH seems to suggest that rather than being wiped out or put in stasis the surviving marines were assigned to other legions and sworn to never mention their lost primarchs again.

 

Yep, it certainly seems to be that way. Rogal Dorn talks about them as if they were still around, to which Malcador replies "they are lost to us forever".

 

I saw on the internet a while ago though a list comparing the Primarchs to the Tarot cards, with comparisons drawn between how the cards related to each other, and he was able to build up what the missing Primarchs might have been like. One was thought to have a more 'subtle' connection to the Warp, like a Navigator rather than an actual psyker, and he'd be the one to persuade Magnus that he'd taken his studies too far, and to teach Night Haunter how to manipulate his 'gift' to stop it from consuming him. I can't remember the other missing Primarch theory, and I'm not sure how reliable this guy was, but it was certainly interesting.

[Iron_Adam]

That would be so cool! A kind of older brother style primarch teaching the others in subtle ways, but is eventually destroyed or entombed or something for something awful

[Justin Kase]

The thought occured to me while I read the conversation between Dorn and Malcador that if it were allowed the two "missing" legions could be summoned if and when it were allowed by the Emperor. This suggested to me that perhaps these two primarchs rather than being dead are in stasis somewhere due to their supposed transgressions. I originally thought their respective legions may also be in stasis but the information presented in TFH seems to suggest that rather than being wiped out or put in stasis the surviving marines were assigned to other legions and sworn to never mention their lost primarchs again.

 

Stored in a box next to their statues no doubt :)

[Generating Random Name...]

The thought occured to me while I read the conversation between Dorn and Malcador that if it were allowed the two "missing" legions could be summoned if and when it were allowed by the Emperor. This suggested to me that perhaps these two primarchs rather than being dead are in stasis somewhere due to their supposed transgressions. I originally thought their respective legions may also be in stasis but the information presented in TFH seems to suggest that rather than being wiped out or put in stasis the surviving marines were assigned to other legions and sworn to never mention their lost primarchs again.

 

Stored in a box next to their statues no doubt :)

Or... They are the Statues? That's one way to get a likeness of someone.

[BetweentheLines]

I find it very interesting, this idea about one of the Primarchs working with xenos. In Fulgrim, there was talk of incorporating The Laer into the Imperium because this would have been too challenging. Could it be that this has not been the first time the Imperium had taken in a Xenos Empire or maybe integrated a lost colony of man that had developed an empire that was open to Xenos? Maybe that is why some Primarchs are so bitter towards ALL xenos. I remember another poster had mentioned this before in the forums.

 

Perhaps this would have been the course of the 11th Primarch. Too damaged from Horus' vision of the capsules from the Chaos Gods to become greater than he tuned out to be so perhaps by happenstance, he landed in a world that was a part of such an open empire where man and xenos could work together. This Primarch would have been the guiding light but perhaps because of some perceived weakness or flaw was socially outcast by many of the other Primarchs. This would be "the purged" that was quoted from The First Heretic. Maybe this was the legion that the Space Wolves had to destroy or reduce.

 

I also find it interesting that throughout the Horus Heresy novels, twice is the 11th mentioned but never is the 2nd. This idea that one of them might have been a blank leads me to believe that the 2nd is the Blank. I can also see a major problem with this 2nd Legion advancing at the pace of the rest of the Expeditions precisely because of this ability. The navigators can't tap into the warp with these Blanks on the ship or have more difficulties doing so. Or maybe it's because (as other have speculated) of these abilities that they are kept in stasis somewhere as a backup. This could be "the forgotten" that was also from The First Heretic.