Don the Oiler Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Just wanted to show off some of the stuff i did in Google Sketchup. Advanced 3d modellers probably sneer at the use of Sketchup, but i think it works quite well with those boxy Warhammer guns. For rendering i used Deep Exploration for the most part. My DeviantArt Account has other models, like LasGuns! Standard Bolter with magnification sights http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/021/9/3/warhammer_40k_bolter_by_clairegrube-d37p7lf.jpg Combi-Flamer, inspired by the Character Conversion Set from Forgeworld http://www.deviantart.com/download/194366446/warhammer_40k_combi_flamer_by_clairegrube-d37py3y.png Combi-Melta, i prefer my secondary, single-shot weapon UNDER-slung http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/029/0/f/warhammer_40k_combi_melter_by_clairegrube-d38angq.jpg Combi-Plasma, not much to say http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/035/0/9/warhammer_40k_combi_plasma_gun_by_clairegrube-d38sq82.jpg Stormbolter with Drum-magazine http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/030/1/d/warhammer_40k_stormbolter_2_by_clairegrube-d38dskl.jpg Old-mark Bolt Pistol, also from the Character Conversion Set http://www.deviantart.com/download/204097018/forgeworld_bolt_pistol_by_clairegrube-d3dii9m.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Lord Sean Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Friggin awsome dude! =][= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid_awesomes Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Love em. My only point would be that the plasma-coil on the plasma gun looks like it intersects the magazine route for the boltgun. Will you be doing anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 I'm no tech adept in plasma weaponry, maybe it's a two-part coil, one on the left, one on the right. I modeled it after the 1" plastic piece from the SM Commander Set, and that's where the coil was there. What i'm struggling with is firearms that either don't have enough room behind the magazine for the bolt to move, or between the muzzle and the magazine so there's no space for the round to chamber (Just look at the current-edition Bolt Pistol). Here's some of the stuff i did when i was still in the learning process regarding Google Sketchup (ok, actually i'm still in this process) 2nd ed Bolt Pistol, first model i ever made. Second picture shows the safety/selector switch http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/197/7/8/Bolt_Pistol_Mk_I_by_ClaireGrube.jpg http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/197/f/9/Bolt_Pistol_Mk_I_Safety_by_ClaireGrube.jpg "Pre-Heresy" Bolt Pistol i took from one of the Space Crusade equipment cards. The emblem is from the TheGreatCrusade.co.uk banner, that's the best "Pre-Unification"-looking Thunderbolt&Lightning emblem i could find. http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/197/b/b/Heresy_era_Bolt_Pistol_by_ClaireGrube.jpg http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/197/5/9/Heresy_era_Bolt_Pistol_2_by_ClaireGrube.jpg That's the Bolter i put most effort in. It's modeled after the one from the Warhammer World displays and it even has a working mechanism. I'll try making an animation of it. http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/197/f/b/Bolter_Mk_I_by_ClaireGrube.jpg http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/197/7/6/Bolter_Mk_I_other_side_by_ClaireGrube.jpg http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/197/7/9/Bolter_Mk_I_Bolt_open_by_ClaireGrube.jpg I also did some LasGuns and Warhammer Runefangs, but i suppose those aren't very popular on these forums. If you're interested you can still have a look at My DeviantArt Account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Zaku Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Wow. Fine stuff, although I'm sure the first 'settings' pic is probably from an 'Agitatus Pattern' bolter currently employed by a certain yellow Chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Small update, another old model. My take on the "Phobos pattern", pre-heresy era Boltgun. I made this model *before*Forgeworld released theirs. It seems we both had the same idea, keeping the old style while moving the magazine and the action a bit to the rear to make the gun technically and ergonomically a little more plausible. Only i went for a straight magazine instead of a curved one. http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/106/a/9/crusade_era_bolter_1_by_clairegrube-d3e5k2u.jpg http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/106/d/6/crusade_era_bolter_2_by_clairegrube-d3e5kcl.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Excellent, excellent. Sketchup is such a useful program. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hey, first up great work all round, i only have 1 small issue, and that is with the first pic, the iron sights would be obscuring theview through the telescopic sight, something I always correct on my minis. Either way, keep 'em coming cheers, Jono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 This is becoming a great resource page, thanks for posting your work. You've inspired me to try using one of those space crusade pistols. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Thank you all. The problem isn't so much the iron sights obscuring the scope, front sights usually blur out when you look through a scope with strong magnification. But the front sight is way to high when you compare it to the rear sight, you'd need bullets with a negative trajectory if you want to hit anything. That's probably because i tried squaring the circle by keeping the original proportions, yet still trying to add a few more details. On my older Bolter i solved this by drilling a hole through the front sight, but i didn't like that idea very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 dude these are super awesome. your really good are you going to make any other weapons ie. heavy bolters and the like. or chaos style weapons might be a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother 'Ussell Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 While I do most of my modeling in maya, I find sketchup to be very handy in certain situations. Also one thing it excels at (and hence it's name) is giving you that sketchy concept design look that I love, also it's very good at being able to let you construct precisely sized components too. Great stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted May 29, 2011 Author Share Posted May 29, 2011 Another update: The Phobos-pattern Bolter from Forgeworld. When FW released their rendition of the "Crusade -Era" Bolter, i realised it looks much better than mine, so i decided to model it too. I tried to stay as close as possible to Phil Stutcinskas' and Will Hayes' original design, i only changed the charging handle so it looks more like the "paddle-handle" on the L85A2. I don't really expect the Astartes to use visible aiming lasers on their guns, i just put one there to see if it looks cool. If you want to see it in REALLY big, check My DeviantArt Account and click on "download", i (unintentionally) uploaded it in 5443 x 3061 instead of 1920x1080 there. I'll consider making other guns as well, already did some LasGuns, its just Bolters you find the best reference pictures of. But i'll consider doing the FW "combat blade attachments" in the near future. http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/149/5/e/warhammer_40k_phobos_bolter_by_clairegrube-d3hi6v3.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaptermaster Graymantle Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Cool and well rendered for such a "simple" tool as Sketchup. I really have to look into Sketchup and 3D in general a lot more... Well done! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 All cool stuff here,lovin the last one especially...although im hopin the charge handle and mag releases are ambidextrous as that boltgun would be leftie's only :) cheers Mithril Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 although im hopin the charge handle and mag releases are ambidextrous as that boltgun would be leftie's only :) i tried to stay as close to the Forgeworld model as possible, the mag release is on both sides, the charging handle is not. Though i don't think ergonomics is a big issue for ANYTHING designed in the imperium. So, next up the Forgeworld Umbra-Pattern Bolter designed by Will Hayes. It looks just like the old Rogue Trader Boltgun, they just moved the magazine a little to the rear. I know it takes some serious prayers to the Machine God if you don't want the ejecting brass being deflected straight back into the chamber with the charging handle as it is, but i didn't know what else to do with that thing sticking out of the ejection port. With this model i also began to realise that many details that look really nice on a small cast plastic toy don't transfer very well onto a magnified 3D Model. Next up will be close combat attachments and the Combi-Melta that came with the 2011 exclusive Forgeworld figure. http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/177/3/0/warhammer_umbra_bolter_by_clairegrube-d3k2cfa.png http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/177/0/4/warhammer_umbra_bolter_2_by_clairegrube-d3k2d40.png EDIT: Little update, first close-combat attachment done. The chain-bayonet will probably take a little longer. http://www.deviantart.com/download/215318450/warhammer_umbra_bolter_bayonet_by_clairegrube-d3k70s2.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Something completely new, yet still related: Ammo! From left to right: Standard bolt Mass-reactive, armour piercing, micro-explosive warhead Hellfire bolt Mass-reactive, fragmentation warhead, bio-acid core Dragonfire bolt Proximity-fuse, super heated gas vial core Kraken bolt Mass-reactive, adamantine core, improved propellant Vengeance bolt Penetrator warhead with unstable flux-core, Hazardous http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/182/b/5/warhammer_bolter_ammo_by_clairegrube-d3koqm9.png Cutaway of a standard bolt Basically: yellow - brass black - gunpowder red - explosive charge light grey - "soft" metal dark grey - "solid" metal (Adamantium or whatever) When the case primer is hit by the bolter's striker, it ignites the lower propellant, which drives the projectile out the barrel. At the bottom of the projectile are small vents that contain simple fuses which are also lit. When it has left the barrel, those fuses ignite the projectile's own propellant, pressing through the vents and driving the bolt onwards. The projectile itself consists of three basic parts. The lower "propulsion" part contains the vents, the propellant and a small striker at the top. The upper part is an armour piercing core, which is surrounded by a soft ballistic mantle and contains the explosive charge with its own primer. These two parts are connected via a buffer mantle, which prevents the accidental ignition of the explosive charge as long as the projectile is is still seated in the case. When hitting a (hard enough) target, the striker in the propulsion part is driven into the primer of the explosive charge. The resulting explosion generally transforms most targets into a gory mess. http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/183/7/6/bolter_round_cutaway_by_clairegrube-d3kr6m2.png Another angle of the bolt, showing the primer, labeling (Forgeworld of origin and calibre) and the bottom of the projectile. The vents are angled, so the bolt keeps spinning even after the own propellant kicks in. http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/183/9/7/warhammer_bolter_ammo_bottom_by_clairegrube-d3kr9so.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSpike Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Fenris Red. Macragge White. Destroy Personnel. Fantastic work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share Posted July 5, 2011 Ok, now all the Umbra Bolter attachments are done: Combat optics, ammo box, bayonet, chainblade and Melter. Most of them are also compatible with the Phobos pattern. In case you're wondering, the Melter is from the Forgeworld 2011 exclusive figure (Boarding Marine). I don't really like the design (a little small and lacks fuel flask), but it obviously was the designer's choice, so here it is. The scope and the ammo box make it an "Umbra Ferrox" pattern. The original Forgeworld miniature has a slightly altered receiver, but i wanted to go for maximum compability so you can use it with any Umbra pattern Bolter. http://www.deviantart.com/download/216801175/warhammer_bolter_attachments_by_clairegrube-d3l2suv.png I've also revised my Phobos Bolter a little. I changed the charging handle and the magazine so it looks more like the Forgeworld miniature. I can't say i'm a big fan of big holes in magazines just to check the remaining ammo, it's practically inviting dirt to obstruct the feeding and makes it much less sturdy. Besides, a Space Marine should be able to keep track of his fired rounds without constantly checking. Picture shows the early Crusade-era Phobos pattern Bolter with a chainblade attachment, an empty and a full magazine, some spent cases, a bolt projectile and a complete round can be seen lying around too. http://www.deviantart.com/download/216852010/warhammer_40k_phobos_bolter_2_by_clairegrube-d3l3w2y.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Thirst Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I could have sworn I commented on this. I thought said comment was something along the lines of "Very nice, your graphic maniulation skills are superb". Hmmmm. Perhaps you should cehck out Thudo's thread in the Amicus? I'm sure he wouldn't mind someone who could work with graphics helping him with a DoW mod ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vharing Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Quick everyone, I lost my jaw on the floor somewhere, no body step on it. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Saviors Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Really enjoyed having a look through these. The cut-away view of the bolter shell looks amazing! Its been said before but I would also really look forward to possibly seeing other variants such as the heavy bolter. Overall fantastic work :sweat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 Thank you all. I think most DoW 1/2 mods need mission builders and scripters more than modelers, besides i know nothing whatsoever about texturing. Still, if someone deemed my models worthy i'd be glad to provide them, but from what i saw of Thudo's mods so far i doubt they'd be of use. Ok so you wanted a Heavy Bolter, you get it! The new Forgeworld Heavy Bolter, aka pre-Heresy Heavy Bolter, aka 1st/2nd edition Heavy Bolter. As opposed to the standard Astartes .75 calibre bolts, the Heavy Bolter fires 1" bolt projectiles. To guarantee steady shooting, this pattern is fired from the shoulder with a sturdy "Macro-Magazine", newer models are wielded "chainsaw-style" and are belt-fed from a backpack-mounted box, which holds more ammo but is also more susceptible to misfeeds. Personally i prefer the old model, you can actually aim and shoot from cover without exposing too much of yourself. http://www.deviantart.com/download/217545376/warhammer_heavy_bolter_by_clairegrube-d3lir34.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Thank you all. I think most DoW 1/2 mods need mission builders and scripters more than modelers, besides i know nothing whatsoever about texturing. Still, if someone deemed my models worthy i'd be glad to provide them, but from what i saw of Thudo's mods so far i doubt they'd be of use. Ok so you wanted a Heavy Bolter, you get it! The new Forgeworld Heavy Bolter, aka pre-Heresy Heavy Bolter, aka 1st/2nd edition Heavy Bolter. As opposed to the standard Astartes .75 calibre bolts, the Heavy Bolter fires 1" bolt projectiles. To guarantee steady shooting, this pattern is fired from the shoulder with a sturdy "Macro-Magazine", newer models are wielded "chainsaw-style" and are belt-fed from a backpack-mounted box, which holds more ammo but is also more susceptible to misfeeds. Personally i prefer the old model, you can actually aim and shoot from cover without exposing too much of yourself. http://www.deviantart.com/download/217545376/warhammer_heavy_bolter_by_clairegrube-d3lir34.png The modern heavy bolter doesn't have to be held like it is in all the games, it just looks more awesome that way. They can be held as regular rifles and such, so is the ways of an astatres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don the Oiler Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 You mean like the Plasma Cannon and the Multi-Melter? I don't know, all those weapons shift the barycentre to the front when shot like a rifle, which seems even more impractical to me. I suppose Space Marines rely on their auto-senses most of the time, that's probably why you see them shooting from the hips on most pieces of art. Ok now i've added an ammo box to my Godwyn Pattern Bolter and refined the model a bit. The box is the one you find on the sternguard models, it actually covers the mag release but i solved that by adding a button that hooks into the weapon's release. Looks a little stupid, but it's the easiest way i found to make it workable without destroying the magwell. http://www.deviantart.com/download/217704694/warhammer_godwyn_bolter_by_clairegrube-d3lm60m.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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