Glitch85 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 My mate has just added 3 x 3 obliterators in his chaos army and I just done seem to be able to deal with them, any tips on what to take?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Multi Melta attack bikes kill them dead. They are only Toughness 4 for instant death, so Lascannon and Melta kills them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vharing Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Hail of assault cannon rounds or death company assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d503 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 stormraven with DC dreadnaught and 6 jumppack death company. The lascannon and the multimelta can hit one squad, then the dread charges another, and the death company get the third. Usually there's not much left after that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 They are really bad news versus mech. 3x3 means they can crossfire and reaching them to assault is not always as easy as it might sound. I would try to shell them with a vindi if I played mech. G <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboarder Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Obliterators are taken by chaos players for a reason. They are the best HS option in the codex, however they are out shone by the firesupport options in other codex and are much easier to deal with, their T4 down from the old T4(5) means that they are rather easy to make a squad of 3 rather redundant you just need to get 2 ID wounds through the probable cover to pull their teeth, not a hard thing to do for most armies. DoA I recommended BS missiles, mech vindi's and las preds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Lem Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Maybe try a Vanguard squad if he digs them in. Heroic intervention does well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch85 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 thx for all the responses, he normally spreads them quite far apart so trying to multi assault them out a raven is out the question really ill just have to try and deal with them a unit at a time. Which was costly for me last night as he just ripped through my troops with plasma cannons before i had chance to get anywhere near! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I cant help but notice no one asked what your pt level was like and what your list was like? So I will ask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morollan Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 thx for all the responses, he normally spreads them quite far apart so trying to multi assault them out a raven is out the question really ill just have to try and deal with them a unit at a time. Which was costly for me last night as he just ripped through my troops with plasma cannons before i had chance to get anywhere near! They can be utterly devastating if you don't deal with them quickly. I was playing as CSM the other week in a Planetstrike game where I had 3 units of Oblits inside bastions. They were able to use lascannons at long range against anything that could damage the bastion and then switch to meltas at close range for anything that survived and finally plasma to deal with mopping up the remaining infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2719987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch85 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 I cant help but notice no one asked what your pt level was like and what your list was like? So I will ask. we were playing 1500, game was objectives with 1 objective in each others base. I took Dante 10 x Assault squad (PF, 2 x Melta) 10 x Tactical 5 x Sanguinary Guard (Banner, PF) Priest (JP + PW) 5 x Vanguard ( 2 x LC + SS, TH) Furioso (Frag Cannon + Heavy Flamer) Drop Pod Baal Pred ( TLAC + HB Sponsons) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBMAKENZIE Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 It looks as though you dont have much to deal with them. Although almost half his army is invested in this oblits. The Furioso inpraticular will be of little use against 2wnd terminators but the rest of your units have sufficient melta to drop in and start muscling their way one way or another to start taking out oblits if that is what you want to focus on. Consider swapping the Furioso and the Baal out for something else that might help out more if thats what you'd like to focus on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Lem Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 How'd the Vanguards perform for you so far ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch85 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 How'd the Vanguards perform for you so far ? They normally do ok, I just had a load of rubbish dice yesterday. Only managed 2 wounds from 17 attacks with them. Then they got assaulted by 5 Terminators with lightening claws and took 8 wounds which wiped them out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Consider swapping the Furioso and the Baal out for something else that might help out more if thats what you'd like to focus on.I agree 100%,If you can pack a few fast moving multi-meltas or power weapons (Oblits strike last in h2h).. then watch him begin to sweat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eetdestroyer Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 More DoA meltaguns Loosing your Furioso and Baal Pred will give you another assault squad, and maybe an infernus pistol with the guard, and try to get a lascannon in the tac squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Multi Melta attack bikes kill them dead. They are only Toughness 4 for instant death, so Lascannon and Melta kills them Ahhhhh yeeaaaahhh.. This is how I'd role, combat his 3x3 obliterators with 3x3 MM attack bikes!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch85 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Im liking the idea of the attack bikes 150 points for 3 MM bikes. Never really though about going down that route but would give my DoA forces some upfront support. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Im liking the idea of the attack bikes 150 points for 3 MM bikes. Never really though about going down that route but would give my DoA forces some upfront support. Yeah bro, attack bikes are amazing support for any army in my opinion I don't think people are really scared of them so although they probably won't draw fire (which you don't really want anyway) this means they can really they can get to your target really fast, pop it then get back out of there again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227047-how-do-i-deal-with-obliterators/#findComment-2720693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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