Joasht Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I find it curious that there hasn't been an article by GW in WD or online about how they went about doing the Force Weapon effects on the Grey Knights. Any clues how they did it? Looks like a nightmare of blending and whatnot (and probably is)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 almost certainly airbrush Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2719810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joasht Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 I don't know, it looks very finely done for an airbrush. Airbrushes are great for large areas but those force weapons are pretty tiny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2719815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 i did find a vidoe of someone doing it, give me 10 minutes and i'll try and find it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2719818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 here is a video, i saw a better one using the great sword but its the same idea http://megaminis.co.uk/How-To-Paint-Force-Weapons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2719820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joasht Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 Makes me wish I had an airbrush....I could replicate it with a normal brush but it wouldn't be nearly as clean, and would take significantly longer :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2719919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingo Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I thought that the 'Eavy Metal guys had to use all-GW products for their work? You know, to avoid being disingenuous, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2720656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 gw have a airbrush sort of, they can always claim that they are just so good with it. also i don't think they always do, i seem to remember reading an 'eavy meatal report that used a super glue quickener. come to thenk of it there was also an airbrush one a few years ago. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2720684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I am 100% sure they use an airbrush, it would be dumb for them not to, and a lot of the effects, like the force weps, would be near impossible to do consistently with a brush. And they can always say they just used the citadel spray gun... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2720864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrywalker Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 exactly, although maybe they would claim to do it brush wise. the spray gun isn't really good enough Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2720879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 here is a video, i saw a better one using the great sword but its the same idea http://megaminis.co.uk/How-To-Paint-Force-Weapons Les from AwesomePaintJob.com has a video that is essentially the same technique (I am too lazy to look for the vid, just search for awesomepaintjob on youtube) You can probably get a similar effect without an airbrush if you aren't afraid to wet blend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2724569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverike_prime Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 GW has an in-house policy about materials used: If Games Workshop does not make a comparable product you can mention using it. That being said they do frown somewhat on the practice and don't encourage naming the product. GW doesn't make an air brush per say. I'm not certain if they consider the Spray Gun an air brush or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2724633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfinger Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I don't know, it looks very finely done for an airbrush. Airbrushes are great for large areas but those force weapons are pretty tiny. I can get consistent 1/8 and smaller lines w/ my airbrush, there is no way that was painted by hand, airbrush definitely! Ashton Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2724871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Nope they were hand painted - there is a tutorial by the 'eavy metal team regarding "mirror effect" swords - and these are good examples of the practice - lots of really thin layers to blend the colours seamlessly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2725425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Nope they were hand painted - there is a tutorial by the 'eavy metal team regarding "mirror effect" swords - and these are good examples of the practice - lots of really thin layers to blend the colours seamlessly... Link? I'd have to see this to believe it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2726213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Nope they were hand painted - there is a tutorial by the 'eavy metal team regarding "mirror effect" swords - and these are good examples of the practice - lots of really thin layers to blend the colours seamlessly... Link? I'd have to see this to believe it. QFT, I'd reallylike to get a look at that tutorial before I start on my sanguinary guard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2726404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf2.3 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 They published a tutorial in the grey knights WD. It's not the way the studio mini's were done but the end reasult is similar and very easy to pull off. It doesn't work on swords though on one edged blades. I attempted it on a sword and I ended up with a zebra blade. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2726450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCopy Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Nope they were hand painted - there is a tutorial by the 'eavy metal team regarding "mirror effect" swords - and these are good examples of the practice - lots of really thin layers to blend the colours seamlessly... Link? I'd have to see this to believe it. QFT, I'd reallylike to get a look at that tutorial before I start on my sanguinary guard. This is just a blending technique. Applying a smooth transition of color. This is a well established technique with decades-worth of painted examples. There are many variations of blending techniques with a brush. Some of the more "advanced" methods have come from multi-award winning painters out of France & Spain, which typically use a method referred to as "Juicing" and sometimes called "Glazing" or a "Watercolor" method. These later methods require very thin paint and a lot of control. Here are really good examples of different blending methods: 1) http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/1300-nmm-by-cyril 2) http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/1288...g-eyes-by-cyril 3) http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/1273-feathering (This guy is calling it feathering, but it's just layering.) 4) http://www.coolminiornot.com/articles/1058-blending-tutorial (A wet blending approach.) 5) http://www.how-to-paint-miniatures.com/min...g_blending.html 6) http://www.mainlymedieval.com/ozpainters/v...1588a83b095ebae There is a lot more out in the miniatures world than just GW & 40K. If you guys would take a moment and step out of your little bubble, you'd get a chance to see some amazing painted works. You'll also learn techniques & methods that'll up you're painting "game" while blowing your mind on how simple they really are. Enjoy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2726559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verpine Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 There is a lot more out in the miniatures world than just GW & 40K. If you guys would take a moment and step out of your little bubble, you'd get a chance to see some amazing painted works. You'll also learn techniques & methods that'll up you're painting "game" while blowing your mind on how simple they really are. Enjoy. Woah, are you for real? There's more than GW? No way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2728588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCopy Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 There is a lot more out in the miniatures world than just GW & 40K. If you guys would take a moment and step out of your little bubble, you'd get a chance to see some amazing painted works. You'll also learn techniques & methods that'll up you're painting "game" while blowing your mind on how simple they really are. Enjoy. Woah, are you for real? There's more than GW? No way! Sounding like Buzz Lightyear: You're mocking me, aren't you... I said what I did because most of the Spayz Mureen nubs on here have had little to (pretty much) no exposure to miniatures outside of GW stuff. There is a wealth of painting knowledge out there. Saying that something could only be done with an airbrush is extremely narrow minded and shows a total lack of actual painting knowledge. Let alone skill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2729096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 There was an article in a WD some time back doing a mirror-effect sword on an Eldar Warlock - they did a similar demo when masterclassing the Sanguinor... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227084-force-weapons/#findComment-2729627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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