SDarmy Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Couple questions. I was introduced to 40k back in '87. I remember reading in a white dwarf about Russ being found and nurtured by wolves when he was a small boy. Kind of like the Roman myth about Romulus. Anyways I quit 40k about '89 and just came back a few years ago. In "Prospero" were told there are no wolves. So was the cannon or history of Russ changed while I was away? also (spoiler)....at the end of "Prospero" the Primordial Annihilateor says that Horus wont fall prey to the anathema for another year. Wasn't it the "dream" that Horus was having and Magnus trying to help him and failing that caused Magnus to try and warn the Emperor? If that happens a year after Prosperous was destroyed why would Magnus even try to help Horus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 time was distorted for the part when he was 'talking to Horus'. That dream was supposed to be in his past remember. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2720023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 The "no wolves on Fnris" topic is adressed by Magnus in A Thousand Sons. The thing that the fenrisan wolves are not literal wolves, but mutated/evolved/degenerated human colonists of Fenris, who settled on the wolrd before the Dark Night. It seems like they tried to enhance their physiology to be able to survive in the planet's environment but eventually mutated or evolved (or whatever you wanna call it) into the giant wolves. At least that's my understanding of the topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2720030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 The "no wolves on Fnris" topic is adressed by Magnus in A Thousand Sons. The thing that the fenrisan wolves are not literal wolves, but mutated/evolved/degenerated human colonists of Fenris, who settled on the wolrd before the Dark Night. It seems like they tried to enhance their physiology to be able to survive in the planet's environment but eventually mutated or evolved (or whatever you wanna call it) into the giant wolves. At least that's my understanding of the topic. Â Exactly. I dislike the theory put forward in Prospero Burns for exactly this reason, where they have it that they're not the original settlers, but the warp-images of dead Space Wolves, as well as failed aspirants, both of which ignore the fact of Freki and Geri, as well as the wolves that raised Russ, who certainly existed before the Space Wolves arrived on Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2720043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I do not take any stock in Magnus' proclamation about there being no wolves on Fenris. He was wrong about almost everything he ever thought he knew about the warp. Â Fenris is no different from the other deathworlds that humans landed on and survived hence why the need for genetic survival enhancements. Â Prospero Burns is misleading in what it actually describes when the one rune priest is warp touched. He is described as a wolf, but it is said he underwent the flesh change IIRC. The only flesh change that is standard in the SW is going to Wulfen. They mention Brom as saving Hawser twice, but it isn't defined as reality or a dream since it is while Helwinter is dying/dead. Â There are no wolves on Fenris, except the Wolves. Simple as it is. The wolves of Fenris are native fauna or even fauna brought with the original settlers that have since mutated and risen to become the apex predators of the planet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2720932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gv0zD Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 There are no wolves on Fenris, except the Wolves. Simple as it is. The wolves of Fenris are native fauna or even fauna brought with the original settlers that have since mutated and risen to become the apex predators of the planet. And this is the most logical and realistic explanation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2721042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrin Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Id have thought that what is said in Prospero Burns about the wolves being fallen Wolves and failed Aspirants would be what the Wolves believed, their folklore basically, but what Magnus and Kindermann said was from a genetic view there are no wolves on Fenris, because they are so far evolved from the basic DNA of the wolves or animals that were brought over with the first settlers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2721472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDarmy Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Ok. So the "no wolves on fenris " isn't talking about the wolfen. But rather wolves brought w/ the original settlers that evolved? I kind of assumed that magnus was touchingon the whole wolfen thing being a big secret at the time of the heresy. With that being the idea. Anyways. .. as for the dream about Horus. That couldn't of been him remembering his past on the lunar plate because he was unconscious for something like 90 years right? I think abnett missed the time line with that one. How long was it after the delvin moon thing that prospero was sacked? Couldn't be too long right. Didn't he send a message to Horus just before istivaan 4 ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2730297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 only 19 years but yes it seemed a bit off time-wise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227088-question-about-prospero-burnsspoilers/#findComment-2730498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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