ZONKEY Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Have death company ever worn terminator armour, if so why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Angel Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 no. long answer: They would never be armed in that way because they are not in battle when they fall, but before the battle. They are than re assigned as death company, and there current rank taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpWalker Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Not only is their rank removed, but NO chapter would willingly put their most prized and irreplaceable tactical dreadnought armour at that level of risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 And, isn't their whole point to die honorably and gloriously in battle? So, giving them more armor would be kind of pointless, yea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinarian Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 You can, however, paint your Terminators black and add a Priest in TDA and ***tada*** you have Death Company Terminators!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Canonicaly, you will never see BA Terminators painted black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodunius Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Canonicaly, you will never see BA Terminators painted black. Do you have a canon statement of such? I can see it not being standard practice but I can also see it happening on occasion - Death Company aren't there just to die, they're there to take as many of the enemy with them as possible and sometimes that could require Terminator armour to make the difference between success or failure. Actually I'm tempted to paint up a squad of DC Terminators for Space Hulk now.. (specifically Mission I: Suicide Mission) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamaNagol Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 They are painted black only when inducted into the Death Company on the eve of battle. Which means they would not be in Terminator armour. Blood Angels *can* fall to the Black Rage in battle... but then they wouldn't be painted black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 If you have a squad of assault terminators and add a sang priest and chaplain to the unit you pretty much have DC terminators anyway... No need to paint them black though I think, blood angel red ones look awesome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Personally I can't see it for the following reasons: 1) TDA is incredibly rare, and onlythe first company are trained in it's use. It is only actually given to a strike force in dire need for a specific mission. For an entire squad of veterans to fall to the black rage whilst equipped with terminator armour the odds would be pretty huge. 2) Terminator Armour takes a long time to equip cannonically, getting a marine in the grips of the black rage to stand still long enough to put it on is pretty unlikely. It's odds on he'd just kill the servitors trying to equip him. 3) A Blood Angel who has fallen actually wants to die. Granted he wants to take as many opponents with him as possible before he goes but really the reality of survival is much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Yeah I can totally seeing the said battle brother(s) setting about the servitors whilst they are trying to equip him or them with TDA... 'I am sanguinIus, get off my leg foul daemon of the warp' as he crushes face with hand! Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinarian Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Canonicaly, you will never see BA Terminators painted black. Just because you say I can't, I'm gonna do it!!! :rolleyes: Canonicaly, you will never see BA Terminators painted black. Do you have a canon statement of such? I can see it not being standard practice but I can also see it happening on occasion - Death Company aren't there just to die, they're there to take as many of the enemy with them as possible and sometimes that could require Terminator armour to make the difference between success or failure. Actually I'm tempted to paint up a squad of DC Terminators for Space Hulk now.. (specifically Mission I: Suicide Mission) DO IT!!! Personally I can't see it for the following reasons: 1) TDA is incredibly rare, and onlythe first company are trained in it's use. It is only actually given to a strike force in dire need for a specific mission. For an entire squad of veterans to fall to the black rage whilst equipped with terminator armour the odds would be pretty huge. 2) Terminator Armour takes a long time to equip cannonically, getting a marine in the grips of the black rage to stand still long enough to put it on is pretty unlikely. It's odds on he'd just kill the servitors trying to equip him. 3) A Blood Angel who has fallen actually wants to die. Granted he wants to take as many opponents with him as possible before he goes but really the reality of survival is much worse. My solution, and I may make this yet another reason the wannabe's on Terra have named us 'renegade' ... +++Hours before battle, and only out of necessity when none fall naturally to the Black Rage, Knights of Blood Chaplains have been known to purposely and intentionally attempt to trigger the Black Rage in their First Company Terminator Squads. If the "Primarch's Annointing" is successful, they will immediately induct them into the Death Company and with the psychic restraints of their Chapter's Librarians, their servitors will hastily prepare their armour in Death Company fashion. Those strong souls that do not succumb to this test of will shall never again be submitted to this procedure again.+++ I love how my fluff seems to write itself out of controversies like this! <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-Death-Company+Astorath Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Or, before battle and after the Terminators have been instantly inducted into the death company by the Knights of blood chaplains, the Chaplains will pour black paint over the armour and spray a red cross on the head. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Drop Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Hahahha, sanguinarian I love you :rolleyes: Hey sang, I posted a mech-ish list, will you comment it please, I'm after some advice as far as cc termys in a LRR are concerned and I know that's your thing, in fact, my list is very like what you run all in all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It's no wonder 40K's fluff is so jacked up when so many players just do whatever they want without any regard for the lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam Monkey Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Its fiction. Evolving fiction at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinarian Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 It's no wonder 40K's fluff is so jacked up when so many players just do whatever they want without any regard for the lore. Relax Crimson, the Knights of Blood have no lore and the last time I checked these are toys we're playing with. The OP just asked a question a few of us went off on a tangent. The Lore of the Imperium is intact until James Swallow and Mat Ward read the emails I left them in regards to writing a book based on the entire Knights of Blood 1st Company falling to the Black Rage while enroute to Rynn's World. As they were tussling about with their black-spray-cans-of-paint, someone got a teeny-weeny bit carried away and started pushing all the buttons on their Strike Cruiser's Fire Control Panel and accidentally launched a few missiles at some big rock orbiting the planet. Oooopsy!!! :devil: Sorry 'bout that. :devil: It's not like anyone saw the license plate of that Cruiser or anything. :unsure: In fact, what were we talking about again? My, how late in the day it's gotten! Cheers! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot530 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Throw those dudes in a black landraider with a big red X. DOOOOOM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallboy Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 what happens to dc that dont die in a batlle, could it not be possible they take onto wearing termy armour to kill even more? maybe with the added extra of a little flask of blood to keep them all jolly and happy till battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 If they don't die in battle they are executed. Hence the reason for Asteroth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot530 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 The new codex fluff doesn't have to be read so restrictively. There is obviously a lot of hyperbole going on as that is how the author writes. There is also a very mystical undercurrent to how the chapter operates, and I think this is the codex fluff's strong point. It doesn't say that Asteroth kills every surviving Death Company Marine after every battle. If read for context there is the allusion that a Death Company Marine can become too dangerous/crazy/powerful for the rest of the chapter to deal with. This is when Asteroth shows up out of the mythic shadows to swing his battle axe. There is another allusion of putting surviving members into stasis between battles under the Lemartes entry. We don't have to be held hostage to hyperbolic fluff; honestly I don't think that was Matt's intention. I think there is still plenty of room for pragmatic approaches to interpreting the texts. I dare you to sharpie the necron entry. Purge! Delete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguinarian Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 If they don't die in battle they are executed. Hence the reason for Asteroth. That's what you and your yellow-bellied Primarch believes, huh? One man travels the vastness of the entire Imperium to lop off heads all by himself? WOW! This from a Chapter that blew their own Fortress Monastery out of the sky!?! Hmmm, might as well just automatically give our opponents the KP for any and all DC that survive. :D Just funnin' ya Crimson Fisting. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fisting Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Regardless they don't wear TDA, otherwise it'd be available to them in their codex entry. Period. It would make no sense to waste terminator armor on a madman. EDIT: Not my chapter. I've actually always hated the BA. From way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot530 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 The Blood Angels Legion is shrouded in mystery. If it is deemed necessary it will come to pass. War is a state of Anarchy where all outcomes are created through the confrontation of individual men and the specific power they wield. If the choice is made to field TDA DC and the outcome goes unrecorded, this will be in line with most wartime actions. What is known is a red drop in the bucket. Cool topic OP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leksington Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Regardless they don't wear TDA, otherwise it'd be available to them in their codex entry. Period. It would make no sense to waste terminator armor on a madman. EDIT: Not my chapter. I've actually always hated the BA. From way back. Simply put: DC Tycho wears Artificer armor, despite the fact that artificer armor isn't available to DC in their codex entry. It is also worth noting that DC marines are allowed to pilot Dreadnaughts. I think we can all agree that it is not the norm for DC to wear anything but power armor, but since there are examples of DC marines piloting Dreadnaughts and in Artificer armor, there probably have been exceptional marines that were allowed to continue to wear their Terminator armor once they succumbed to the black rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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