ShinyRhino Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 This is a series of WIP shots of the Chaplain I'm working on. He's built to be able to be run as Cassius, or as a generic Chaplain. This is his starting point. I've only added a non-powerfist arm. The original setup for this model is Crozius and powerfist, which is a foolish gear loadout. I also had gotten this guy in a bitz trade, and he was missing the powerfist anyways. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chaplainconversion.jpg Here he is with his bolter arm fleshed out: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip01.jpg I chopped the stormbolter off an AoBR Terminator arm, and cut it at the gauntlet. The one big obstacle for this model is the fact that the Crozius arm is so much larger than current plastics. A standard bolter-grip hand would have made the Crosius arm look gargantuan. The Terminator gauntlet is my attempt to replicate the size of the arm. It's "ok", but not "perfect." I scanned bitz site after bitz site looking for an arm that matched the gauntlets on the Crozius arm, and only found one after I'd given up and assembled this one. A close match was found from the WHFB Chaos Knights box, but I have concerns about sizes matching up. I've never held a Chaos Knight in my hands, so I don't know how well the arm thicknesses would match. Another obstacle is that huge, thick shoulder pad he has on his left arm. It appears to have a smaller pad underneath it or something. I seized on this as a way to bulk him out without perfectly-matching arms. I took a basic, unadorned Marine shoulderpad, and sanded off the rims. I then cut about a millimeter and a half off the bottom of it, to shorten it to about Scout-pad size. I then took a spare Black Templar Terminator pad, and sanded all of the decoration off of it so it was smooth (though there are a couple pits I couldn't get, which will get a going-over with Brownstuff and resanding). the Terminator pad didn't sit perfectly over the sanded-down smaller pad, so I carved and sanded a little of the inside of the Terminator pad away until it fit flush. One, large, beefy pad was the result. It's not perfect, but I kinda like it. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip02.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip03.jpg That little white tab is a piece of plasticard that I used to fill the small gap in the Terminator pad. Two layers of thin card attached to the arm and pad with plastic glue, and then sanded smooth. I wasn't sure what style of pad I wanted him to have after that. I thught about custom-making a studded pad, but on power-armor those are worn on the left side. I thought abut leaving it smooth, but it just didn't look ornate enough for a Chaplain. I decided to add back the pad rims using thin strips of plasticard. I got out a striaghtedge, and a very sharp, fresh Xacto blade. I cut one long strip just over 1mm wide. Apply superglue (plastic glue doesn't cure fast enough for this small detail work) to the initial attachment point (which was the white plug I'd created earlier), and set the strip in position without bending. This ensured a solid connection before I tried to bend the strip around the curves of the pad. After about 5 minutes, the superglue had cured enought hat I could apply a bead along the edge of the pad, to the back edge. I carefully bent the strip around the pad, and pulled o it slightly to get it to lay flat and straight. Allow to cure for 5 minutes, and repeat with the bottom rim. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip04.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip05.jpg There was a tiny seam between the edges of the two strips, so I dabbed a generous drop of plastic glue on each, and allowed it to cure overnight. I then sanded it down the next night. Seamless. The armpit shot shows the eventual setup of the various pad layers. The large pad was slightly sanded along the bottom edge to make sure the rim strip and pad budy were flush. Overall, I think it looks pretty good. The pose might throw some folks, but I wanted it to look like he was wading fearlessly through a hail of small arms fire, booming Litanies of Hate, and defying the enemy. All while leading the Marines forward. I need to take a shot of his backpack, as well, though it's really just a Templar pack with a roped litany on the back, the Templar cross sanded out, and a tiny Aquila from the Commander kit glued over it, and an Ultramarine standard topper glued on the top of the pack. Simple, but effective. The Ultra symbol stands proudly behind his head when the pack is mounted. The combiflamer is just the mastercrafted bolter from the Command Squad sprue with the barrel moved upward, and the tip of a 3rd Edition laspistol glued underneath for the flamer nozzle. Scope added to the top, and front sight filed off. Simples. What do folks think of it? Any suggestions for improvement? I'm thinking of applying a Greenstuff namescroll to the scratchbuilt pad, to take up some real estate. My only other option is a freehand skull motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Ah one of my favorite Chaplains models and yet my most loathed (I have this exact model for my Black Templars). I love it because you could just imagine him with arms spread wide yelling verses as the battle rages on around him and yet I hate the model because the crozius arm is so beefy and its a complete pain in the ass to make it look right. However I think you almost got it right. Its just the left arm is so damn beefy that the only real way to maybe even it out is to use a terminator arm. Still you did an awesome job and as far as the chaos knight arms, I believe they are slightly in line with a standard marine arm. Mr.Malevolent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I like the big shoulder pad and it works well to 'even' him out. The pose makes me think he is firing at a previous target and he is so confident in his shot he is looking for another target already. As for the shoulder pad...could I suggest bone decorations? Dangle some femurs and a skull or two with those scrolls? I had this piece of artwork I found of what was a chaplain (i think) and his one shoulder pad had an upper torso of a skeleton and skull tied to it. Looked really cool in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hmm, that might work. I do have a small bag of WHFB sksletonparts, though I'd earmarked those for attaching to the armor of my scratchbuild Legion of the Damned. I found the art you're referring to with a Google search. Not too shabby. Imight also be able to mock up something similar to a reliquary on his shoulder by carefully cutting the bones out of the dozens of Black Templar reliquary bitz I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 I've made more progress on my Chaplain, and he's now ready for primer. After numerous attempts at adding bones or litanies to the right shoulderpad, I decided to just go with a good old studded rim, and freehand that pad. So, I dug up this article in the Librarium. It's for making fully-studded pads, but works just the same on pad rims. One note is that the link for the micro beads provided in the article is now sold out. Instead, do a Google or eBay search for "glass micro beads." I found a seller on eBay offering 7 grams of these beads for a couple bucks. I bought 14 grams, and am now set for life with microbeads. Seriously. I could model an entire Legion with the beads I have. Here's how it turned out: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip06.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip07.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip08.jpg Not too shabby! The studs are of relatively uniform size, but do not match the other pad perfectly, which is a tip I took from a reader, Thor. The big, open expanse of the shoulder pad actually gives me a chance to try some fine-detail freehand. I'm going to attempt to replicate the shoulder pad of the Chaplain illustrated on the unit description page of the Codex. If I can't pull that off, it'll be a skull and crossbones. I also have a shot of his backpack: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chappackwip01.jpg It's a Templar backpack with the cross shaved off, and a small aquila from the Commander box placed over it. Problem is, it's not centered. Very minor detail, but it's bugging me. I'm thinking about removing the aquila, and using one of the mini Crux Terminatii from the Terminator kit. I feel it'll fit the space better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrus Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Love the work, and conversion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Nice joint seals and pauldron. One thing is bugging me though - your chappy is looking the wrong way. He isn't sighting his bolter even though he's got it up to fire. Maybe it's just me but I prefer marines looking where they are shooting. :whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 Nice joint seals and pauldron. One thing is bugging me though - your chappy is looking the wrong way. He isn't sighting his bolter even though he's got it up to fire. Maybe it's just me but I prefer marines looking where they are shooting. :) He's not actually shooting. He's walking forward, arms outstretched in a "do your best!" mode. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wAk3 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Maybe if you where to angle the bolter down, so he is holding it kinda like he is holding the crozius, that "do your best!" mode might become more obvious. On a different note; I really like your backpack, it suits a chaplain perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrus Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 After more thought I did have one comment / Idea. The nubs on the new shoulder pad need to match closer in number to the one on the metal model. It looks great but when I see that top down view all I can notice is that they don't match... Just my 2cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 After more thought I did have one comment / Idea. The nubs on the new shoulder pad need to match closer in number to the one on the metal model. It looks great but when I see that top down view all I can notice is that they don't match... Just my 2cents I'll have to make some measurements. The self-made studs are much larger than the cast-in studs, making it tougher to match the spacing and count of the cast-in studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I'd just add another stud between the existing ones and be done with it. It'd be close enough, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Some minor progress. Here he is with his armor all done, and an initial pass of basecoat on his litany scrolls/cloth: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip10.jpg The glossy finish is from the Grey Liner used for his armor. It'll go away once I seal him with Dullcote. Here he is with the litanies done, metallics complete, and the basecoat for his bones applied, mostly (I missed the bones n the back of his hand, so I'll have to get those tonight before I move on to the Sepia wash: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip11.jpg He's chugging along nicely. I know several people wanted to see me change the positioning of his bolter, but I just couldn't see how having a limp wrist, or a canted angle would help him at all. I'm questioning the silver shoulder pad rims, since Codex pattern should be black on the left, and company color on the right. I'll have to see how he looks with the golds done, and the scarlet on the crozius haft before I decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The paintjob looks good so far. I agree with the wait-and-see method, it might look alright once more colour is on him. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 The paintjob looks good so far. I agree with the wait-and-see method, it might look alright once more colour is on him. :P Thanks. Another thing I'm wrestling with is the color of the text on his scroll/cloth. I used this brown on my TDA Chaplain, and it looked nice, but here it looks very out of place. I'm thinking of going back to black, to break up the large swathe of ivory/tan, and tie it into his armor. Ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Black wording is a good fallback, how about a red square at the top-left of the lines to simulate an illuminated letter? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 The last of my WIP shots: I went back and completely redid the cloth, and ended up like this: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip12.jpg Then I needed to do some freehand on his right shoulder (washed out from the light): http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip14.jpg I also greatly refined my gold recipe: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapwip13.jpg In the end he looks like this: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapfinal01.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapfinal02.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapfinal03.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/chapfinal04.jpg Gotta say, I'm pretty proud of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 looking good, some great freehand there mr Shiny, the scrollwork looks great too.. a nice little addition.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I think the 'U' on the backpack needs a little bit of a highlight - it's looking a bit flat. Besides that the paintjob looks a-ok. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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