Grimtooth Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Has anyone noticed that the Wolves tend to remember their lives prior to becoming Space Wolves rather fondly? The whole freezing wind in the face, thrill of the hunt/battle, and life "before" seems to retain a place in their heart/minds in their current lives much more then I have read about in other chapters. In fact, the only time I have seen such fond reminiscing of the past has been during the HH series and Terran marines from the various chapters remembering life on Terra. Anyone else notice this? Key to us retaining more of our link to humanity then other chapters? I would like to believe so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Hammerhand Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Well smurfs certainly remember where they came from. It appears to be not entirely unusual for them to pop round for dinner with mummy and daddy every once in a while. And they appear to retain their family names so their cousin can threaten to call them round if someone won't stop bullying them at school... to which the bully in question can then say "my cousin's a marine too ya know, he'll eat your brains if you dont give me your lunch!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/#findComment-2729301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natanael Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Well smurfs certainly remember where they came from. It appears to be not entirely unusual for them to pop round for dinner with mummy and daddy every once in a while. And they appear to retain their family names so their cousin can threaten to call them round if someone won't stop bullying them at school... to which the bully in question can then say "my cousin's a marine too ya know, he'll eat your brains if you dont give me your lunch!" Haha. The senarios in my head are now endless :rolleyes: I'd love to see the two small schoolboys doing the "my cousin's a marine and he will kick your ass" to each other... - Natanael Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/#findComment-2729359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Isn't the same as the Wolves. The impression that I get is that the VI is just a bunch of Fenrisians that happen to be Space Marines, not a bunch of Space Marines that happen to be Fenrisians. They have taken so much of their previous culture and previous humanity and integrated it into their new lives as members of the Rout. I realized the same of the White Scars. Take some of the other chapters as example; Blood Angels take trash and elevate them to angelic, nothing from their previous life. Black Templars straight up just indocrinate whoever they grab from whatever world they drop a fortress monastery. Dark Angels are now so steeped in secrecy versus their knighthood history. Ultras come from affluent families across the Macragge empire and then thrust into Sparta. Who else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/#findComment-2730494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Isn't the same as the Wolves. The impression that I get is that the VI is just a bunch of Fenrisians that happen to be Space Marines, not a bunch of Space Marines that happen to be Fenrisians. They have taken so much of their previous culture and previous humanity and integrated it into their new lives as members of the Rout. without that said culture and humanity, then the Rout/Space Wolves are only just space marines. I think it was more enforced/influenced because Russ was around back then, and he was more about the traditions and all about the way of Fenris life, that inspired and define the once legion. while there are chapters today who forsake their past-lives, the wolves honor and hold onto theirs. making them more rooted, giving them a stronger foundation in both fluff, and appeal as a chapter as a whole. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/#findComment-2730500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Not every aspirant is brain-washed upon becoming an Astartes. That the Space Wolves retain the memories and mannerisms from their "life-before" is the reason they are such an appealing army to play; makes them far easier to relate to. An interesting thing to note is that where other Chapters may psycho-indoctrinate their marines into loyalty to the Emperor/Chapter/etc.etc, Space Wolves don't seem to. Because of this, it makes Blood Claws (their initiates) very "rowdy" and difficult to control (things like personal vendettas, pride, etc, all reign free and strong). However, there seems to be a conscious choice on their part, not only in loyalty to the Emperor, but to each other and to humanity. A trial by fire, if you will, over the course of their progression through the ranks. The chains of honor and duty that bind and drive the Space Wolves would invariably be stronger than those of a Chapter that relied purely on psycho-indoctrination. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/#findComment-2730832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinks Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I agree with the above statement. Infact i would go so far as to say that in the current trend of fluff - that none or at least a very small percentage of chapters actually use psycho-indoctrination. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/#findComment-2730837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 It adds to their style of fighting as well. The Space Wolves know they are chosen to be the warriors of the gods. Even the lowliest Blood Claw has been elevated above mortal life. While the same could be said of other chapters, their induction into the Astartes is more of just an eye opening to a wider universe. With the Wolves induction is more religious in nature and saved only for the best of the best on the mortal world. I think this lends a certain bravado to the force while on the field. An inability to admit defeat because you have been chosen by Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/227831-fenris-and-the-vi-legion/#findComment-2730839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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