Need help painting and putting together models

[GreenReaper]

Hi, I need alot of help. i am trying to paint my space marines into a new chapter called the Celtic Wolves. I am trying to paint them white with a dark angel green. I am having alot of problems with doing this. I have them all prepped in white. I just dont know how to outline the edges of the model and what color to use. I am also having problems painting the green. I am just applying the dark angel green, should I put a color first underneath it to bring out the color more.

 

Another question I am having is I have the big metal model with the wolf and the space marine on top of it, I cant think of the name of him of the top of my head, I cant get it to sit correctly while i am trying to put it together. Most of the parts dont want to fit or stay glued. i was wondering what is the best way to do this. Thank you for any help........

[RebG]

Hi, I need alot of help. i am trying to paint my space marines into a new chapter called the Celtic Wolves. I am trying to paint them white with a dark angel green. I am having alot of problems with doing this. I have them all prepped in white. I just dont know how to outline the edges of the model and what color to use. I am also having problems painting the green. I am just applying the dark angel green, should I put a color first underneath it to bring out the color more.

 

This part really depends upon what areas you want to be green and what you want to be white. If you have a white base coat that's all you need as the 'underneath' layer, if you're doing any larger sections of DA green though just make sure you get in any grooves and gaps or you'll have white undercoat where you really want shading.

Alternatively, if you're doing mainly DA green on all your models, consider undercoating them black as this will pre-shade the gaps and the DA green should still cover it ok. The white will need a mid grey (or similar) layer underneath it over the black to let it show properly. Don't worry about getting the green on areas you will want to be white in the end, you can touch that up later on.

By outlining the edges I'm guessing you mean highlights. For now I'd focus on the main colours if you're that unsure and build up to this and come back to it a little down the line once you've had time to look at all the excellent work floating out and about round these pages.

 

Another question I am having is I have the big metal model with the wolf and the space marine on top of it, I cant think of the name of him of the top of my head, I cant get it to sit correctly while i am trying to put it together. Most of the parts dont want to fit or stay glued. i was wondering what is the best way to do this. Thank you for any help........

 

Big metal models are often a pain to put together, you've got to be patient. There's a few things you can do. Washing the components to get rid of any possible left over mould release (a possible reason the parts won't stick) in warm soapy water is the quickest and easiest.

Often, especially with the bigger metal models like Canis (the model you mentioned), you'll likely need to pin the joints by drilling some of the parts and gluing in thin wire or rod to strengthen the joints. There's tutorials about this all over this website and others, it's something you should be able to be shown the idea of in your local games store or similar too which might give you a more practical idea what to do.

It's also likely that, how ever well you glue it, there'll be the odd gap. For this you need something like green stuff or miliput (or other types of modelling putty) to fill in those few spaces. Again, this is covered in lots of tutorials and work in progress updates so have a search.

Lastly; make sure you're using a good glue. For bigger metal or resin models I use Zap CA glue rather than 'regular' superglue from the supermarket, this cures really quickly and you can also accelerate the process with certain products. It means that you aren't holding parts together manually for 5-10mins waiting for it to set, meaning less time for things to move and the glue to miss bonding the parts.

 

Overall both building and painting models can be full of trial and error but don't worry about learning from your mistakes. Surf through all the various Bolter and Chainsword articles, blogs and guides throughout the site, you'll pick up loads just from that. Also, if you see something specific you really like you can always message the specific member behind the inspiring model and ask them how the built or painted it - I've done this before and people can be very helpful!

 

Hope some of that waffle helped!

[GreenReaper]

Hi, thank you....that will help me alot....Im gonna keep looking around to figure it all out....i actually came up with now gonna use space wolves gray with dark angels green now......It will be primary the gray and secondary the dark angels green.......they are all primmed in skull white already......Thank you again for your help.....how did you get that one picture as your profile pic......Im trying to figure it all out......still....thank you again....

[AngryJohnny]

@GreenReaper: something else that might be helpful is for you to create a B&C Space Marine Painter image to show us the color scheme you plan to use. It would be easier for members of the board to give you tips & tricks on painting your specific scheme.

 

B&C Space Marine Painter - http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/smp.php

[RebG]

To choose an Avatar pic click on "My Controls" at the top of the screen, then "Edit Avatar Settings" which is down the left side of the screen. You can then either choose from pre-loaded pictures or add your own. I'm still figuring things out (I can't make my 'Challenge Failed' banner work at the bottom).

 

I'd second the recommendation for playing around with the SM Painter (up on the top right, under the Grey Knights banner) to choose your scheme. Just take your time and remember the old cliche - practice makes perfect!

 

Good Luck :D

[GreenReaper]

I uploaded my paintings now on my page....I have different types for my different squads and companies.....

[S'jet]

I suggest you try painting Dark Angels Green over both white and black undercoats, just to see the difference. With this colour specifically, the difference is pretty huge. You will probably need afew coats over either one you choose (doesnt cover amazingly from what i remember last time i used it). Presonally, i prefer it over black... its comes out darker and will probably go better with the white parts of your space marines.

 

Having said that... if you do choose to paint the dark angels green over black, still use a white undercoat.... trying to get white back from a dark colour is a pain in the @ss..... as im sure you have probably found out already =)

 

Edit: oh, and i checked out your pics from the space marine painter.... nice scheme!