MaveriK Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I can't wait until everyone has read this book! just so we can all talk about how awesome it is openly. Chris you do the wolves justice! I'm starting to look forward to future wolf books, only because I now feel that this new outlook and vision of wolves would make some great story telling. I'm so lucky my friend got me a copy! I feel that both Prospero Burns and Battle of the Fang compliment each other, and both books.. I feel are grown up and mature, compared to the older space wolf Ragnar novels. These recent books, along with wolf at the door, and thunder from Fenris, gives the once legion, some legitimacy as a serious and gritty warrior class, that gives the chapter more depth. I love this book! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2741205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I got my copy of Battle of the Fang at black library live 2011 along with: Age of Darkness, Fall of Damnos, Blood Reaver and Victories of the Space Marines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2745232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Got my digi copy last thursday and finished. This is an absolute must read for space wolf fans. Despite some things like using "clip" instead of "magazine" and calling a frost blade a force blade, it is well written. Those who wanted more action vs "Brospero Burns", will not be displeased. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2767785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdale91 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I got my digital copy last Friday at work, started reading during work and finished up Saturday morning. Couldn't stop reading it..... :lol: FYI- You can usually get the E-book a couple of weeks earlier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2769604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 Gutted, my store did not have there copy as order did not arrive/dely. So hope it on sale tomorrow. Really hype up to read Battle for the Fang, really hope to get some brillaint conversion idea from the novel. IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2769641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I picked it up last week and I've started reading it on my "breaks" between painting. So far I'm about 1/3 of the way through and I'm enjoying it immensely (right up there with Prospero Burns). My one niggle is that the banter between some of the Blood Claws is bordering on the old William King Space Wolf novels, but so far it's been light enough that it maintains a serious tone. Fingers crossed it doesn't devolve into what the old Ragnar series were... *shudder* DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2770441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I love the descriptions of Bjorn, and how he is viewed by others. I also like all the characters, along with the differences and similarities between the sky warriors and the Fenris born mortals living in the Fang. The endless action is epic and intense, which I believe Dan Abnett's Prospero Burns was just softening/setting us, all up for this action packed book. The blood claws, Redpelt and Helfist remind me of our very own forte and Arez Greenhorn LMAO --EDIT-- I almost want to make a small pack of Kaerls, maybe used as wound counters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2770910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Got my copy of Battle for the Fang during the weekend there. I am on page 156 right now, there a lot going for this book with 501 pagies. So far really enjoy it & really like how there is a lot going on in the story, shown many people views from both Space Wolves & the Thasound Sons. IP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2776276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chymz Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I'm reading it at the moment and really enjoying it. One thing tho.... Is Battle of the Fang set in the "current" 40K timeline (i.e the year 39,9xx)?? I'm asking because there are tonnes of references to a period of 1,000 years worth of animosity between the Thousand Sons and the Wolves all the wway through the book. Am I correct in saying the Horus Heresey (and hence the burning of Prospero) happens around 30,000? i.e TEN thousand years before the "present" as far as the timeline goes? Please correct me if I'm being a dumba$$! Cheers C Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2788228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I'm reading it at the moment and really enjoying it. One thing tho.... Is Battle of the Fang set in the "current" 40K timeline (i.e the year 39,9xx)?? I'm asking because there are tonnes of references to a period of 1,000 years worth of animosity between the Thousand Sons and the Wolves all the wway through the book. Am I correct in saying the Horus Heresey (and hence the burning of Prospero) happens around 30,000? i.e TEN thousand years before the "present" as far as the timeline goes? Please correct me if I'm being a dumba$$! Cheers C Battle of the fang takes place in M32 It seems so long ago since I read this and thanks to everyone who read my review on it and made it by far the most read post on my blog, im still claiming a world exclusive on the review, for a long time I was the only one mentioned on Chris Wriaghts blog. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2788241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I'm reading it at the moment and really enjoying it. One thing tho.... Is Battle of the Fang set in the "current" 40K timeline (i.e the year 39,9xx)?? I'm asking because there are tonnes of references to a period of 1,000 years worth of animosity between the Thousand Sons and the Wolves all the wway through the book. Am I correct in saying the Horus Heresey (and hence the burning of Prospero) happens around 30,000? i.e TEN thousand years before the "present" as far as the timeline goes? Please correct me if I'm being a dumba$$! Cheers C Battle of the fang takes place in M32 It seems so long ago since I read this and thanks to everyone who read my review on it and made it by far the most read post on my blog, im still claiming a world exclusive on the review, for a long time I was the only one mentioned on Chris Wriaghts blog. Correct, BotF takes place 1000 years after the end of the Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2788261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HvitrValdyr Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Finished it last night, awesome book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2788286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Finished it now as well. Besides being awesome over all I thought that the reasons for the attack from the TS point of view were better than just simple revenge though it was part of it. Though the part I loved the most, though minor was when a TS made a "ward sign" (I kept thinking cross sign across the chest) just at the mention of Russ like the devil himself... made me giggle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tancred Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I was lucky enough to walk into GW Reading a couple of weeks ago when Chris Wraight was doing a book signing. Great read so far and it is the final push to get me collecting some space wolves, just need to decide which company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I was lucky enough to walk into GW Reading a couple of weeks ago when Chris Wraight was doing a book signing. Great read so far and it is the final push to get me collecting some space wolves, just need to decide which company. if it was the book that pushed you over i'dd say bjorn his comany when he was still the great wolf! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Or make a Greyloc great company, they seem a capable bunch ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tancred Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I was lucky enough to walk into GW Reading a couple of weeks ago when Chris Wraight was doing a book signing. Great read so far and it is the final push to get me collecting some space wolves, just need to decide which company. if it was the book that pushed you over i'dd say bjorn his comany when he was still the great wolf! ;) Well at first I was thinking of Jarl Vaer Greyloc 12th company but not sure if twin WC are the best weapons choice for a Wolf Lord. Though it would be a cool model and plenty of fluff characters to make for the different squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnor Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Okay, I will admit. I like reading, but it usually takes me months to finish a book. So finishing Battle of the Fang winth in a week really says something. I loved it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Read it in one sitting. Will be reading it again. I liked the book, but liked Prospero Burns much, much more. Here is my main problem with this book; The characters are so shallow in depth. Our introduction to Greyloc whets the appetite to learn so much more and yet we are not left with much more then some very minor introspection. The same with the main wolf priest and the basis of his work. I can understand the lack of depth in the Blood Claw named characters. They are fodder and should only be defined as to how well and how they fight. However in regard to the ones that are the basis of what the story is about, severe lack of depth. The only character that we do get some depth on in Battle of the Fang is Bjorn and that is ONLY when you combine it with what you got from him in Prospero Burns. In the prior book we get a very brief glimpse of insight into Bjorn. In this book we see a very different incarnation of Bjorn. While in PB we see a Bjorn destined for greatness and in BotF we see a Bjorn that has reached that greatness, albeit tragically. This book weighs in at a hefty 500+ pages and I just feel that there was a little sloppiness in portraying some very important characters during a very significant incident in the history of the VI. We are kinda handed that Ironhelm is an arse, that Greyloc is a heroic outcast, etc, etc. That just didn't set well with me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I loved it, loved all the characters as it showed all the different perspectives and going-ons inside the Fang. There were allot of characters that I enjoyed, the pacing was great, i think better than Abnetts. This book was action packed, if you wanted to get deeper into the character it would turn the book into two or three separate books on the same event. So I think the author did great with what he had to tell and show us. Not to mention it helped iron out both Mav's (lost company) and my fluff haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I loved it, loved all the characters as it showed all the different perspectives and going-ons inside the Fang. There were allot of characters that I enjoyed, the pacing was great, i think better than Abnetts. This book was action packed, if you wanted to get deeper into the character it would turn the book into two or three separate books on the same event. So I think the author did great with what he had to tell and show us. Not to mention it helped iron out both Mav's (lost company) and my fluff haha The mortals in the Fang make me want to build an entire Fenrisian IG army!! Don't get me wrong, I loved the characters, but think they were not given due justice for their significance. For example, Greyloc is just immediately given the role of heroic outcast jarl but we are barely given any reason why. He is more pale, less built, and others make fun of that so that is why he will be the heroic outcast. That is it?!?!? Same with Ironhelm and same with the wolf priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HvitrValdyr Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I can't wait until everyone has read this book! just so we can all talk about how awesome it is openly. Are we ready to talk openly about it yet? I am dying to hear the discussions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 The mortals in the Fang make me want to build an entire Fenrisian IG army!! Don't get me wrong, I loved the characters, but think they were not given due justice for their significance. For example, Greyloc is just immediately given the role of heroic outcast jarl but we are barely given any reason why. He is more pale, less built, and others make fun of that so that is why he will be the heroic outcast. That is it?!?!? Same with Ironhelm and same with the wolf priest. haha that's why I did my fluff the way it is now (if you haven't read it already) kaerls for the win! For me, Greyloc and The Wolf Priest represented the future of the chapter, the transition from executioners to protectors of mankind. The other wolves in the story were still very much set in the past. Greyloc was a thinker! And was wise... this didn't sit well with the standard approach of the rout. Greyloc saw that in order for the wolves to survive in the current times they had to evolve and adapt to the changes in the new imperium. I dunno that's my take on it. Just surprised there was a woman in the story! sweet, major props to Chris on that one haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 i finished it 2 days ago, havent posted to get past the "sqee" factor... as a story, the book wasnt bad at all. probably my 2nd favorite of the Space Marine Battle series (after Helsreach). as a Wolf player, it has turned my idea of the First Siege of the Fang from a victory to a defeat, a prychic win for the Thousand Sons, but a victory for them after all. this bothers me as it breaks a idea i have long held for the Wolves, and while change isnt always bad, it changed more than i was comfortable with. and i hate ironhelm now more than i did before. what a tool. (but that might be hindsight talking) WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 as a Wolf player, it has turned my idea of the First Siege of the Fang from a victory to a defeat, a prychic win for the Thousand Sons, but a victory for them after all. this bothers me as it breaks a idea i have long held for the Wolves, and while change isnt always bad, it changed more than i was comfortable with. I don't see it as a defeat brother, although the Wolves lost something valuable, and Magnus achieved his goal, we did far more long term damage to his legion, and with only one great company and a bunch of humans! that alone says allot about the Wolves. Although circumstances were similar to what happened to Prospero, the Wolves defended and fought back hard. I'm gonna echoe was was summarized and written at the lexicanum... Of Hraldir and his experiments, nothing was salvagable. And so, whilst the Battle of the Fang is reckoned to be a terrible defeat for the Thousand Sons, Magnus achieved his purpose. The Sons of Russ project would not rise again, and there would never be any successors born to the Space Wolves. The battle robbed the Rout of their possibility to reproduce, spread, grow in power and potentially strike a devastating blow against the forces of Chaos. However, it did not even come close to destroying them, and their recovery from it was assured.1m For the Thousand Sons, it was another matter entirely. Their Legion had thrown almost everything at the battle, and lost almost as much. Apart from their fleet, their remaining non-Astartes Legion resources were used up and cast away. Several of the remaining senior figures in the Legion were lost, encouraging the breaking-down of the command-tree, and their retreat was scattered and piecemeal. As they are not known to have appeared in this strength ever again, it is after the Battle of the Fang that the Thousand Sons are thought to have lost organised coherence and become a group of warbands, predicted by the victorious Space Wolves of the time to be thought of as "...knowledge-thieves roaming the galaxy for hidden trinkets...their shame know[ing] no limit and their poverty...no equal." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/2/#findComment-2792556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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