Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 very true, atleast we can discuss our differing opinions peacefully instead of blowing up planets like some dress wearing primarch i might mention... WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2797632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeslikethunder Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 This for me is a difficult one. Everyone mentions the lack a ring of space wolf chapters in to stop the 14th black crusade. But for me the important point is magnus mentions that without them no one will come to our aid to save us from destruction. But this turns my mind to the Predictions of Russ's return and the 13th company. To me the 13th company very much seem to play the role of the Einherjar. I wondered if this is to be their role to the that saviour. The 13th company seem also very sure of Russ's return in some of the books. And Magnus seems very determined to destroy them. Maybe this is the reason Afterall Wyrmbalde dismmisses the Runepriests predictions of Russ's return Russ is mentioned in all the SW codexes of having an item that allows his return from the land of the dead and in his Final speech he says he death is soon. Which as always struck me as strange as this seems very quick to die from natural causes. So where is the vision from his own inate powers, the Emperor or Magnus. There does seem to be theme of the surviving Primarchs being put on ice to be recalled for the final battle. Personally i love the hints and missing bits which tantalise and tease the reader in 40K Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2797898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosis Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Good tidings, "brothers". Fun book, I am very pleased that I took the time out of today to find it at Barnes & Nobles. You should pick it up. I was skeptical if I would enjoy flopping back and forth between Wolf/Thousand Sons characters, but it's very entertaining. Check it out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2798765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamCaboose Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Easily one of the best books I've read in a good while. Caboose Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2798770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Wulfen Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 i plan on it as soon as i get to the mainland:D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2798773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 how could you not miss the other topic when it's on the same page? LOL http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=228340 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2798776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosis Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Well sorry ma'am, if the mods have a problem they will delete it. After all, I am a dread sorcerer posting in the puppy forum. :] and Caboose- One day you and I will fight again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2798789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I will merge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2799202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Alright, it was an excellent book, far better than the average, that I'll have to reread many times. I hope Chris becomes our McNeil if he keeps this quality up. :) The probably unintentional name mention of my brawl name was nice, and Hrothgar of the Revered Fallen will always hold the last name of Firefist for me. I marked every mention of his name. :) A few questions on him, with the expectation of completely made-up and non-canon answers: 1. What is Hrothgar's surname? 2. Does he survive the battle? 3. What is he armed with? 4. Any backstory? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2799399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Was thinking a bit more about this; Magnus achieves his objective, however, he was pretty much alone in his mission the entire book. The rest of the Thousand Sons do not achieve what was their intended objective. They are outright destroyed for all intents and purposes attempting to exact their revenge which was merely just a distraction for Magnus' true mission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2799471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Was thinking a bit more about this; Magnus achieves his objective, however, he was pretty much alone in his mission the entire book. The rest of the Thousand Sons do not achieve what was their intended objective. They are outright destroyed for all intents and purposes attempting to exact their revenge which was merely just a distraction for Magnus' true mission. good call brother! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2799549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Was thinking a bit more about this; Magnus achieves his objective, however, he was pretty much alone in his mission the entire book. The rest of the Thousand Sons do not achieve what was their intended objective. They are outright destroyed for all intents and purposes attempting to exact their revenge which was merely just a distraction for Magnus' true mission. Yes. Correct. That is what I was trying to say previously. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2799567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosis Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I felt a lot of emotion for each character and as I turned the pages, I could feel the despair in their urgency It's been a long time since I wanted to know what becomes of each and every character instead of just assuming it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2799778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It makes me wonder what Temekh will play in future stories. He appears in the novel, get's a decent amount of character development, and then just............leaves. He doesn't die, he doesn't mutate. He doesn't even fight the Wolves. He just sits in orbit and leaves when Magnus tell him to. It just seems odd that he got as much screentime as the rest of the Thousand Sons when he did so little. I'm wondering if he is going to appear in future stories, as Wraight seems to be setting him up for something, because otherwise you don't give so much time to a character that did so little. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2800142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It makes me wonder what Temekh will play in future stories. He appears in the novel, get's a decent amount of character development, and then just............leaves. He doesn't die, he doesn't mutate. He doesn't even fight the Wolves. He just sits in orbit and leaves when Magnus tell him to. It just seems odd that he got as much screentime as the rest of the Thousand Sons when he did so little. I'm wondering if he is going to appear in future stories, as Wraight seems to be setting him up for something, because otherwise you don't give so much time to a character that did so little. Well he needed all that time to summon Magnus which did not seem like a simple thing to do. So I guess he got that much screentime so you would see that bringing a Daemon Primarch back into reality is no small feat, as well as explaining Magnus being in two places at once. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2800246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 It makes me wonder what Temekh will play in future stories. He appears in the novel, get's a decent amount of character development, and then just............leaves. He doesn't die, he doesn't mutate. He doesn't even fight the Wolves. He just sits in orbit and leaves when Magnus tell him to. It just seems odd that he got as much screentime as the rest of the Thousand Sons when he did so little. I'm wondering if he is going to appear in future stories, as Wraight seems to be setting him up for something, because otherwise you don't give so much time to a character that did so little. Well he needed all that time to summon Magnus which did not seem like a simple thing to do. So I guess he got that much screentime so you would see that bringing a Daemon Primarch back into reality is no small feat, as well as explaining Magnus being in two places at once. True, but I think we may see him again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2800511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Fenrir Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I thought it was utter crap. Sorry, but modern GW changes to the background really isn't doing it for me - especially after rereading the original text describing the event. Badly written and the new ideas introduced are rubbish. AVOID. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2800873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I thought it was utter crap. Sorry, but modern GW changes to the background really isn't doing it for me - especially after rereading the original text describing the event. Badly written and the new ideas introduced are rubbish. AVOID. would you kindly care to extrapolate on your thoughts, instead of "hate" on the book and story itself. Because without clarification and or examples. IMHO and although I'm sure it wasn't intended on your part, your post just comes out as trolling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2800880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I thought it was utter crap. Sorry, but modern GW changes to the background really isn't doing it for me - especially after rereading the original text describing the event. Badly written and the new ideas introduced are rubbish. AVOID. :) Wow, I'd really like to know the details behind this venom. I'm half thinking your commentary is a deliberate joke. If not, please elaborate why you despise this book so much. It doesn't get much better for us for a BL book. Perhaps this is the issue? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2800950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosis Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Wait. What fluff was changed? I fail to see Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2801694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazguire Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 It makes me wonder what Temekh will play in future stories. He appears in the novel, get's a decent amount of character development, and then just............leaves. He doesn't die, he doesn't mutate. He doesn't even fight the Wolves. He just sits in orbit and leaves when Magnus tell him to. It just seems odd that he got as much screentime as the rest of the Thousand Sons when he did so little. I'm wondering if he is going to appear in future stories, as Wraight seems to be setting him up for something, because otherwise you don't give so much time to a character that did so little. He'll probably be Chris Wraight's new pet character for any future Thousand Sons book he writes. I'd so like to see his take on how the Legion under Magnus eventually breaks down any sort of coherency and ends up like it is in the 41st Millennium. Even better would be for a complete reversal. That Temekh takes it upon himself to try and recreate the Legion, an impossible folly, but one he's obsessed with, to Tzeentch's delight... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2801944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Book trailer for those who havent seen it yet, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ywvIMwcoLc gawd I love that artwork! the artist should defiantly do future SW art, and book covers for us! anyway, I'm curious about the little short story Chris is writing, I'm hoping it's space wolf related!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2802716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrime Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Okay, maybe I'm just arbitrarily being Mr. Poop Shoes here, but it just kinda seems like the dude that wrote this is trying to ride Dan Abnett's coat tails. He drops the Prospero Burns lexicon, but there's not craftsmanship to the writing. The premise is good, I like the story line, the concept of it, but the writing's execution just hamstrings the whole piece of work. The author doesn't even have a clear grasp of tense or verb usage. I've lost count of the sentence fragments, some of which could be understandably done for the sake of style, but one can only forgive so much. I paid for it, I'll read the whole thing, but man... the fact that this guy graduated high school is a crack in the foundation of the institution of education to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2802802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverik_girl Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Book trailer for those who havent seen it yet, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ywvIMwcoLc gawd I love that artwork! the artist should defiantly do future SW art, and book covers for us! anyway, I'm curious about the little short story Chris is writing, I'm hoping it's space wolf related!!!! well the short story is called "Kraken" ....so maybe?!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2803269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Book trailer for those who havent seen it yet, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ywvIMwcoLc gawd I love that artwork! the artist should defiantly do future SW art, and book covers for us! anyway, I'm curious about the little short story Chris is writing, I'm hoping it's space wolf related!!!! well the short story is called "Kraken" ....so maybe?!? i think your logic is sound, but there is a hive fleet named kraken so it could be about it. but we're cooler, and deserve the story more. WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/228340-battle-of-the-fang/page/5/#findComment-2803337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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